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mawnansmiff

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
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Hello restoration experts, might you advise me on something please?
Today a bundle of estates arrived from Ebay and in amongst them is a Cumberland stemmed Dunghill blasted billiard. My question is this, is the procedure the same for cleaning (600 grit up to 7000 grit) Cumberland stems as for Vulcanite?
I would rather not ruin it so thought it best to ask here afore I take it on.
Thank you.
Regards,
Jay.

 
Chasing Embers

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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Classically it is red and black ebonite/vulcanite swirled together but is available now in other colors.

 
Chasing Embers

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
43,399
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My favorite stem material BTW. Have quite a few, and love it due to its woodgrain appearance.

 
mso489

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Of course this is simulated in acrylic which, depending on your point of view, is a cheap imitation or a lovely low maintenance look-alike. I guess you know where I come down on this, but I appreciate the real item, from a distance, nonetheless. If your teeth hate acrylic, get the real thing.

 
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bigpond

Lifer
Oct 14, 2014
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OK. So cumberland is vulcanite. Good to know. Thank you!
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By default, cumberland is vulcanite. However some cumberland is acrylic. Best to ask when in doubt.

 
ejames

ejames

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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Clickclick answered your question. Work Cumberland just as you would black vulcanite or acrylics.

 
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danhester

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 17, 2016
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Cumberland stems are beautiful. I'd love to add a few pieces with them into my collection if I can find some in my price range.

 
Chasing Embers

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
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43,399
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You could always have one made by Walker Briar Repair for one of your currently owned pipes. :wink:

 
georged

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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Today a bundle of estates arrived from Ebay and in amongst them is a Cumberland stemmed Dunghill blasted billiard.
My question is this, is the procedure the same for cleaning (600 grit up to 7000 grit) Cumberland stems as for Vulcanite?
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Pretty much, but not quite.
There is often enough hardness variation between a Cumberland stem's base color and its "streak" color that sanding should be taken to a higher grit, and buffing done with a lighter touch to avoid creating a textured surface. (Think sandblasting, just a couple orders of magnitude less dramatic.)

 
mawnansmiff

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,409
7,328
Sunny Cornwall, UK.
Thanks George, I can go as high as 12000 grit (no buffer here) then move onto Meguiars polish which is likely the route I shall take. I just hope the white spot stays where it is.
Regards,
Jay.

 
mso489

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Yeah, clickklick nailed it on the first shot, so the rest of us chimed in with a few details. I don't think the thread was hijacked.

 
ssjones

ssjones

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George is right (shocker!), particularly with Dunhill Cumberland stems. Go easy on the wheel. I've found the white dots to be pretty darn durable (and a pleasure to work on ).

 
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