I have 2 Crowns, a 200, and a 300, a Winslow Grade E, that being said the crowns are very good smokers, in Mr Winslow words the only difference between the Crowns and the Winslows is the density and grain of the briar, same drilling, same hand made techniques . I can attest to that with the 2 that I have, in fact I believe they have the edge on the similar grade Nordings. Just my thoughts.