Circa 1920's Comoy's Sandblast 4 (Large)

disinformatique · Dec 27, 2015

Loving this old bulldog. Got it at a very affordable price. The seller marked it as a 1920 Comoy's Sandblast Shape 4 which is correct according to the pipe shape chart available at Comoy's 1909 Shape Chart

Cheers,

Chris

fordm60 · Dec 27, 2015

Monk, looks like a very fine pipe! I love the old pipes, I sit there and smoke them wondering about all the crazy things they have seen, the changes in technology, the fall of empires, World Wars, moon landings, etc, etc it blows my mind a little when I am in the zone with one! Happy puffing!!

disinformatique · Dec 27, 2015

I am the same when it comes to old estates. Oh the stories they would tell if they could talk. This is my main attraction to the vintage pipes. This one was made 6 years before my grandfather was even born. 27 years before India got its independence from the British.
Someone needs to write a historically accurate fiction novel about the life of a pipe.
Cheers,

Chris

sablebrush52 · Dec 27, 2015

It's a very nice piece, but that stem looks much later than the 1920's. I put little stock into sellers' descriptions as few of the know what they're writing about. Do you have a good picture of the stampings?

mso489 · Dec 27, 2015

How far back does the sandblast finish go? Do they pre-date the 1920's? Not just on Comoys, but on pipes in general?

disinformatique · Dec 27, 2015

Hi Jesse, I just bought it and it will be shipped on the 1st. Will get some stamping pictures once it reached my US address. I am living in India currently so won't be able to personally inspect it.
@mso What I've heard is that Alfred Dunhill was the first one to sandblast pipes. Here is some sauce on it The Art of Sandblasting. I maybe wrong however, my knowledge is quite limited as compared to other brothers in the forum.

ssjones · Dec 27, 2015

Sandblast Comoy's frequently fly under the radar. The Sandblast finish was introduced in the 1950's, if I remember correctly. Same great stem!

iamn8 · Dec 27, 2015

Ford, pipes can't see dude. They lack eyes, processing power, and the will. That said, my pipes do speak... they whisper to me late at night, trying to make me do bad, evil things, but don't worry. I don't listen to them. I'm not crazy

disinformatique · Dec 27, 2015

@ssjones thanks Al, I love all bulldog shapes and its variations. For 40 bucks it's quite a treat. The same seller (faridunhill) has a really nice pipe from Yves Backstoner of Ygrek pipes if anyone is interested.
@Nate you are one funny dude

:puffpipe:

disinformatique · Dec 30, 2015

Al the sandblast Comoy have been dated to 1920s. Pipedia Comoy's Grades just under the Magnum section.
Chris

sthbkr77 · Dec 30, 2015

I have a blasted Comoy poker that is allegedly from the 40's. I'll snap a pic later and post. I'm curious if the seller was certain of the date or just pulled a date from the air.

misterlowercase · Dec 30, 2015

Al the sandblast Comoy have been dated to 1920s. Pipedia Comoy's Grades just under the Magnum section.
Chris

This is where stamping comes in handy,

the late 20's example the author states that he owns most likely has a stamp like this:

London Made. Comoy’s were the first London pipe maker to use this phrase. It is the earliest stamp to be used and can be found from 1902 or perhaps earlier and on into the 1930s . At this time, it can appear as “London” over “Made” or in a straight line.
Made in England. This is stamped in a circle with “Made” at the top, “in” in the middle, and “England” forming the bottom of the circle. I call this the football shape or F/B for short. I have seen this stamp on a Cecil dated as early as 1910 and on an Old Bruyere of 1921 and then only on pipes from the 1930s.

Various examples seen here:

http://pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-comoy.html
So look at the stamp when you get it.
It's a cool pipe,

looks near mint to me.

Congrats!

Smoke 'er well!

: puffy

:

ssjones · Dec 30, 2015

This statement is not written very clearly, but they are talking about sandlbasted pipes, not the "Sandblast" grade, which by catalogs, appears in the 1950's. At least this is what Mike Reschke shared with me.

Sandblast. I am not sure when Comoy’s first produced the sandblast finish but have one dating from the late 1920s. I also have an Extraordinaire 802, which is rusticated as apposed to sandblasted, but I believe this to be a very rare finish.

misterlowercase · Dec 30, 2015

How far back does the sandblast finish go? Do they pre-date the 1920's? Not just on Comoys, but on pipes in general?

MSO,

a very very murky issue,

wish we had more info, but at present time there doesn't seem to be any concrete answers.

If someone could seriously invest the time and write a book on the subject,

I'd buy a copy in a heartbeat!
This thread tried to make a way thru the fog,

but it is a dense thicket:

http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/early-sandblasted-pipes-many-unknowns-yet-remain
:puffpipe:

ssjones · Dec 30, 2015

The stamping will tell the tale. I've never seen a Comoys sandblast with 1920's or even 1930's stamping.
But, I did find this one(someone got a great deal on this!) The nomenclature is too worn to read from the pictures.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Comoys-Sandblast-tobacco-pipe-army-mount-1930s-billiard-3-piece-C-/151741779193?nma=true&si=NMWvBlC7LPw4eMhnchcpV3qlXoI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

ssjones · Dec 30, 2015

I'd have loved to see the nomenclature on this one. Why no nomenclature pix SmokingPIpes???
http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/peterson/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=46397

ssjones · Dec 30, 2015

This sounds right for the 1930's

https://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/estate/england/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=72419

ssjones · Dec 30, 2015

This would be from the 1950's forward.

misterlowercase · Dec 30, 2015

I'd have loved to see the nomenclature on this one. Why no nomenclature pix SmokingPIpes???
http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/peterson/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=46397

mama mia!

:!:

8O
That pipe is dropdead gorgeous!
I agree about the nomenclature pix,

always an important aspect for any collector,

it'd be a nice added touch.
One of the good things about eBay is seeing all the zoom'd up details 'n such...
...for reference,

here's a good example of the "football shape" aka "rugby stamp"...

ssjones · Dec 30, 2015

My oldest Comoys, from the early 1930's (to 1936 if memory serves). Lacks the "London".

Circa 1920's Comoy's Sandblast 4 (Large)

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