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Cellar Aging - Excited to Taste the Impact

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  • Started 5 years ago by peckinpahhombre
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  1. peckinpahhombre

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    I started cellaring about 18 months ago. Right now, according to my tobacco cellar bar graph, 44% of my stash is over the 1 year point in the cellar: http://tobaccocellar.com/peckinpahhombre

    This is from the time I put it in the cellar not from the time the blends were tinned.

    So far, I haven't dipped in to the cellar much at all. I have been smoking various miscellaneous blends that I have in an overflow drawer that are not counted in my cellar holdings. However, I only have about 7 tins left in the overflow, so in the near term I will have to start dipping into the cellar.

    Does anyone know what blends show the most improvement with a year of aging, and what blends need far more cellaring time before they get better?

    I am struggling with what I should dip into first?

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    Out of those blends I think Dark Star would have aged the best, but I've only smoked a very small fraction of the blends you have cellared.
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    I would go straight to the light Virginias for the greatest effect from aging. But, then I would go straight to the Virginia regardless, lol.

    My cellar is only six months old, but I will set back and watch what you do, to get an idea of what to do myself in another year.

    However, I have a suspicion that my addiction to my local B&M will keep me buying fresh stock (just to have the excuse to visit them), even once my cellar is overflowing. I would never have thought myself a hoarder, but I just can't stop myself.

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    It must be like looking at a reservoir and wondering which drop to drink first. I feel your pain.
    The FVF might be a good option.

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    I agree with cosmic generally about the light VA category. Based on puny in comparison cellar.

    But.....the Escudo I put away a little over a year ago is even better than the fresh I cracked for a mini experiment.

    If you want some 2004 Cumberland that is mind blowing PM me and I'll be happy to send some up.

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    Well from your selection I would say Bayou Morning is really good after a year. Blackjack that is lucky too make it a year with me. I have one tin left that has made the mark and need more. Briar fox is pretty good after a year but IMO it needs a bit more time. After a year good too mix into a rotation for a morning coffee smoke or little heavier smoke. Low country cooper is amazing any time. My last tin made it too the 1 1/2 mark was opened on a hunting trip. Age or not still good in my opinion. With your cellar I would say put on a blind fold and grab one. Hesitation makes waste

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    I'd personally go with a Latakia-based English. They'll smooth out nicely in 6 months to a year. I'd let the Virginias sit.

    Bob

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    That's a good call Bob. Tashkent has been calling out to me.

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    Well Escudo seems to come along nicely with some age. I actually done care for it fresh but even 6 months helped. But I'd say, it's a pretty safe bet that any Virginia flake would benefit from a year. Which one the most? That I cannot say.

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    I have been cellaring since Dec. of 2012. I tried a lot of tins with a year on them and enjoyed them very much. However I don't know what some of them tasted like fresh for comparison. I ordered some MacBaren Acadian Perique and was pleasantly surprised when I received it that it was from the 2009 Chicago pipe show when they released it. It is absolutely amazing how much difference 5 years has made to that vs. fresh. I eagerly await the aging of my cellar as well.

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    I would let the VA's age some more if it were me. I would lean towards popping one of your LAT, OR, VA mixtures.

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    I would probably open the oldest, and since it's 3.5 ozs, you'll have time to consider your next move.

    McClelland Christmas Cheer 2000 ...premium pressed Virginia flake. Natural sweetness and zest. 3.5 oz 13yr 7mo

    I find myself sitting idly on the line dividing past and future,
    as if I could kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau
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    But that Christmas Cheer will likely develop and deepen for the next 20-30 years. The latakia blends are going to start fading long before then.

    Bob

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    Good point, Bob. I don't smoke Latakia, so I completely ignored that angle. The trick should be to catch each blend at its peak.

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    In my experience 2 years makes a significant difference, but I believe I'm relating what I learned some years ago that 80% of aging occurs by 5 years. Although I'm sure 1 year old Cumberland, which has a preponderance of VA, is better, I don't notice it. This is to say that 18 months you might decide to go longer.

    On the other hand you may have quit or died before long-term aging has occurred. And who is to say whether the pleasure you take smoking a blend fresh is worth waiting for the increased pleasure smoking aging's long-term aging results? I'll be in my mid-sixties by the time my cellar goes to 5 years. My guess is that I will still be smoking and that I will enjoy the aging effects then. My answer is to buy enough so that I can enjoy it aged but also enough to smoke now.

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    Leave that Westminster alone, it will continue to improve, according to Greg himself. I would try one of your jacknife plugs, you would still have 119 tins left!! That is an impressive cellar you got going there!
    BTW- are any of your Gaslight tins expanding? I have 12 that I'm cellaring and they've swelled to the point that I'm afraid they may burst. I know that means they are "fermenting" but man, I'm afraid to touch them!

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    If you have anything from C&D or GL Pease, then about one year in the tin will have definitely helped them (most other manufacturers age them some before sale, but C&D is too small for that so a little aging helps almost all of their blends).
    Otherwise, English blends show a change pretty quickly. I think Vas should sit for five years, minimum. They may be wonderful even when freshly tinned, but at five years they have usually started to really sing.
    IMO, of course!

    "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the wise cannot see all ends. -- J.R.R. Tolkien
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