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BURLEY ??!! %$@#&%!!

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  1. ashdigger

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    I've deliberately steered away from Burley OTC Blends because I had my tongue, mouth and throat absolutely trashed by Burley Superstars Motzek Strang and ODF, just to name a few.

    So I learned how to smoke and enjoy VaPers and Virginias, being very careful to really study Burley content.

    A while back I tried Prince Albert and really enjoyed it. Now I'm working my way through the OTC Catalog and all it encompasses. This week was Velvet and next week its Lane Ready Rubbed.

    Not only can I smoke several bowls a day, think 8-10, I can smoke right through a pouch.

    Needless to say, my cellar is going to be thinned and fattened back up.

    Burley, what say you?

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    Mmmmm, burley

    Enough said

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    Captain black white pouch gave me a good throat kicking first few bowls but im maybe 5 bowls and 6 beers deep seems to be coming around

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    I love it...Carter Hall is my favorite OTC and one of 7 in my regular rotation. Says it is a burley/va blend on the package...but you can tell its nearly all burley. It's smooth, burns very nice...although I can't prove it, it does seem to be cased with a little sugar, but not much even if it is, and no flavors...it's just a nice, clean smoke.

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    Here's the description

    Carter Hall is a benchmark for OTC tobacco. Mellow Burleys are cross-cut and blended with some flake-cut Virginias and finished with a subtle top note. This cool-smoking blend has been part of the American pipe-smoking landscape for decades and delivers a comforting, bite-free experience; an ideal all-day smoke.

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    I have a pouch of Carter Hall that lives in my truck now....its good stuff.

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    Let's stick to codger tobacco. Less fuel for the fire, as OTC puts us in the public eye. I love burley. Alone, in blends, lightly flavored, but not heavily cased. I am making my way through the midtown series from H&H currently, and smoke many of the original codger blends, too. Keep in mind, these blends were largely for the guys who smoked one tobacco, all day every day. They are designed to be smoked frequently throughout the day.

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    Love me some Burley! I don’t remember ever getting bitten from it, might be the only genre I can say that about!

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    Mmmmm, burley

    Enough said

    +1 … Well, almost...the only burley I remember having some unpleasant bite or irritation from was a Mac Baren blend...but that was a long time ago and may have been due to my cadence at the time.

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    It used to be an OTC....Edward G. Robinson Pipe Blend. Burley/Virginia/ with a very small touch of Latakia. The Latakia is so far in the background that I don't even notice it. This is definitely a Burley forward blend.

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    I grew up with a dad who smoked Granger all the time. I like many genres of blends, but I admit burley is central. I like it as the base. I like single leaf like Five Brothers, or the Belgium variant Semois cuts. I like it as a condiment in English blends nearly always. I like a wide range of C&D burley blends. All my tongue bite and burn have come from aromatics. Full-strength leaf is almost always okay unflavored. I seldom go for nicotine, but enjoy a little buzz when it happens. Burley can be polarizing. Some love it unconditionally, which approximates my tastes. Some enjoy selected blends but others not at all. And some people risk throwing up just by lighting up. I honor all of those experiences, since I have to smoke aromatics with high selectivity. Happy adventures to you, with burley ... lovely stuff to me.

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    Surprised to hear you say that ODF trashed you. For the longest time I'd been on a primarily burley-based blend kick, but now have moved away from that to a red virginia base.

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    irish', I'm venturing into Va and Va/Per, but slowly. There are many excellent blends, and I enjoy them, but the siren call of burley is strong. I have some excellent Virginia based, Va/Pers, and Va-inclusive on hand; right now enjoying PS LNF, a nice aged batch I've had jarred. But Semois in the pipe!

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    For a long time I tried to not be a burley guy. Honestly, I felt like one had to aspire to be a Virginia flake lover in order to be a refined pipe tobacco smoker. So it went, and so I smoked, and along the way I met some great Virginia flakes, a few bad Balkan players, some English scoundrels, and an aromatic with a particularly bad attitude. After a while I realized that I was in fact a burley guy. I love the stuff. Especially burley flakes without topping/flavoring. Now I own it, my name is Neal and I'm a burley-holic.

    Neal
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    I can't smoke any right now as it's time for dinner, but I opened up my pouch of Carter Hall and took a couple deep inhales. Man does it smell good.

    Dan

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    CH, PA, Angler's Dream, HH Burley Flake, ODF, Watch City Slices, ABF, Middleton Apple, all of them find love with me.

    refined pipe tobacco smoker

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    Embers

    I see you finally gave up the chase.

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    I see you finally gave up the chase.

    That screen name was a smoking technique, but after a few forum typos I sounded like a stalker.

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    Burley and Best both start with a 'B.' Coincidence? I think not! Reveling in the greatness of old school blends is one of life's great pleasures.

    Cheers,

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    Oh yes, I'm certainly starting to really enjoy my ODF more now. I'm just cube cutting it and it's been a joy of a smoke in my Peterson Christmas 999. Carter Hall is exceptional too and I know what you mean about opening it up and smelling all that burley goodness. I really want to also buy myself some Boswell's Premium Burley. It's really good stuff. The next one I want to try is the Mac Baren HH Burley Flake.

    "If you can't send money, send tobacco." - George Washington

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    I’m not a “Burley guy” as many blends are a bit rough on the throat IME. That being said there are so many variations in leaf and processing that there are wonderful blends out there if you’re willing to do some exploring. Watch City has some excellent Burley blends like Slices and Deluxe Crumb. C&D Pegasus is great, especially with a few years on it. P&C Classic Burley Kake is another winner. Carter Hall is also enjoyable.

    So many blends, so little time.

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    Mac Baren offers Symphony and Golden Extra. Two great Burley blends that taste nutty and chocolatey. Simply awesome.

    Dot
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    I have to wholeheartedly agree with that Watch City recommendation and a shout out to Cortez for mentioning it to someone else in another thread (I was eavesdropping). That Deluxe Crumb Cut is pretty tasty - among others.

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    I generally like Burley and always have some Carter Hall on hand. Although, having said that, I find C&D burleys rather harsh on my throat. I tried to love Pegasus, but my love was unrequited. Conversely, Solani Aged Burley Flake hits all the characteristics of what a high quality burley advertises and is not a bit harsh. I still find myself more attracted to virginias and VaPers, though. To me, virginias have a more varied and interesting flavor profile that keeps me coming back.

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    I'm another that's prone to finding burley blends prone to being a little harsh on my throat, sometimes I don't feel it when I'm smoking the blend but I end up with a sore throat later. Mostly it's not an issue as I'm not the biggest fan of burley blends so I tend to avoid them but I loved McQuiad plug flavor but it was like smoking sandpaper

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    If you haven’t already, try some Old Joe Krantz. To me, it’s like a codger blend with finer leaf. Pack, light, and go. No fuss.

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    Well,to be honest if there wasn't burley blends out there, I'd be in deep water'Ok sometimes these regular medium forte' burleys may be a bit harsh on the throat,but so what?At least the do not bite.If there weren't Burley forward blend available ,would I have been keeping on smoking pipes?Thats a question to ponder,at least there are some pretty descent Va-Kentuckies and some VaBurs that may satisfy my needs.

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    Unfortunately, in general, I don't like the taste of most burley blends, especially C&D Burley blends. That's a shame because I smoked 6 to 8 bowls per day. Not the end of the world for me as I like the sweet flavors of VA, VaPer and English blends. Who knows, perhaps my tastes will change or evolve to where I come to enjoy the burley blends.

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    I find Old Dark Fired pretty sweet.

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    I find Old Dark Fired pretty sweet.

    Me too. But it isn't a straight burley either. It has a fair amount of Virginia.

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    If you haven’t already, try some Old Joe Krantz.

    +1 … I wish I had tried it much sooner...been really enjoying it lately.

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    OJK is currently my favorite morning smoke with coffee.

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    I have a tub of Carter Hall on hand at all times. Not one has ever dried out on me. I can and do smoke only CH all day many days. I have many treasures in many jars. But CH is a steady friend. I fear to lose some blends, we just lost some. But I actually believe in my lifetime anyway Carter Hall will be here. PA, OJK, again pretty damn good. Something about those blends, Coger blends, that satisfy all day long. YMMV.

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    Love Burley. Top three right now are Mac Baren HH Burley Flake, H&H Chatham Manor, and Carter Hall. In that order.

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    Are Chatham Manor and Carter Hall Matches?

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    Burley is ok in right circumstances, like ODF toasted burley or Chathom Manor with that delish topping.

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    I just smoked some Lane Limited Ready Rubbed. I'm sold!!

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    Peretti in Boston has an entire selection of burley, old school type tobacco. My favorite is Cuban Blend for straight burley type. Fairly complex but sweet enough too. Pease Barbary Coast is an interesting choice or you might try Haddo’s Delight for a Va/Per/Burley treat. As well or a Virginia / Burley flake like Peterson University Flake may bridge you to burley. I generally prefer burley in the hotter months.

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    Are Chatham Manor and Carter Hall Matches?

    The former is a match for the latter.

    I've been dying to try Chatham Manor, but the duties for a tube would be prohibitive.

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    I'm enjoying some C&D Burley Flake #3 right now. I, too, have been hitting the OJK a lot lately.

    But, the perique overshadows the burley in that one, for me. I still enjoy it. I just think of perique before burley when I do.

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    I loves me some Burley!

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    But, the perique overshadows the burley in that one, for me. I still enjoy it. I just think of perique before burley when I do.

    Yeah, the perique does get your attention with OJK...but that's one of the things I love about it.

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    I've been dying to try Chatham Manor, but the duties for a tube would be prohibitive.

    It is the best smelling tobacco in the world

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    Burley's my favorite leaf as mentioned in an earlier post on this thread. I did omit one category in how people react to burley. Some pretty much love it. Some like selected blends. Others don't like any of it, tend to throw up. One other category -- some really don't taste it much, kind of like cardboard or tissue paper. Some of these folks might cultivate a taste for it, but it may never be a "fav." I'm learning nuances of Virginias, sipping it more and reflecting "deeply." Burley has always rung my bell.

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    After initially not being appreciative of it, I am now really enjoying Chatham Manor. I will be buying another tub soon.

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    I don't smoke any straight burley's. I enjoy a number of Vaburs and have the following in my cellar in no particular order.

    Solani Silver Flake
    Peterson Perfect Plug
    GL Pease Navigator
    Petersons Irish Flake
    Peterson University Flake
    Esoterica Stonehaven
    Mac Baren HH Old Dark Fired
    Wallace Flake
    Orlik Dark Strong Kentucky
    Savinelli Doblone d'Oro - Vabur with Perique

    Harris
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    cigarmaster, I find burley an excellent condiment in other blends that adds balance to a Virginia base, and/or Orientals and other leaf. It adds a good dimension to English blends as well.

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    Burley, especially Solani 656 and HH Burley Flake knocked me right off the Latakia train.

    Old Dark Fired is like a heroin addiction.

    Carter Hall and Prince Albert by the tub. Mixes great with every damn thing.

    I'm definitely a huge burley fan.

    "May my last breath be drawn through a pipe, and exhaled in a jest." Charles Lamb
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