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Briar Quality in Dunhill

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  1. rdavid

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    The website is terrific.

    Very much agree. Anyone who likes Black Sabbath must make a bitchen pipe!

    "May my last breath be drawn through a pipe, and exhaled in a jest." Charles Lamb
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    It's been great re-reading this thread.

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    Sorry for any confusion - yes, there are a few "sasquatch" types, including Micah Cryder, the Yeti. I took this handle more than 10 years ago when I started haunting various forums. I started making pipes, and unlike EVERYone else, I didn't just call myself "Todd Bannard Pipes". There was already at least one Todd in pipe making. I stamped my initials on my pipes: STB also, BST for Briar Sweat and Tears, which is mostly what pipe making is. Never thought anything of it because I expected to sell about 4 pipes my whole life.

    Here's the deal, and some of you know this or will get it immediately: I make pipes, and they have to sell themselves. I don't pound the pavement, I don't advertise in any way. If I make pipes that are good enough looking AND good enough smoking, they will sell, it's that simple. And quite correct actually. By the time people find me, they are interested. If they never find me, that's okay.

    I found this fascinating quip from Dunhill the other day: "...Advertising did not play any part in the development of the Dunhill business. ...Our first customers came to know Dunhill goods by what was probably a quite casual entry into the Duke St. shop. The large majority of these casual customers became regular customers." If you make something pretty good an offer it at a fair price, it works. I don't compete with other pipe makers really in any way - I do what I do, working in the niche I have created, and it works for me, and the people who want to buy the kind of thing I sell, which is hopefully a pipe that smokes as good or better than anything they have. In some cases this is a basket pipe and I am a gateway to the artisan world, my cheaper pipes being available under 300 bucks. In other cases people wander in off the street and ask for something special, which I can sometimes deliver.

    The thing that freaks me out in all of this is how many truly bad pipes there are and were. Awful quality in any number of ways, and usually manifesting with a gurgling, difficult smoke. The fact that a an essentially talentless person like myself can be kept busy merely by making pipes that are not like that is very telling for the whole industry imho. I'm not thrilled with Dunhill pipes, preferring Castellos myself, but at least Alfred TRIED!

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    I found this fascinating quip from Dunhill the other day: "...Advertising did not play any part in the development of the Dunhill business. ...Our first customers came to know Dunhill goods by what was probably a quite casual entry into the Duke St. shop.

    Isn't it a lovely myth? Since they were advertising their leather goods before they ever got into the pipe business they must have been idiots to be spending all that money on an essentially useless effort.

    Years ago I had the opportunity to talk with several of Dunhill's top American dealers on separate occasions, and they all said the same thing, excellently made stems attached to indifferent wood.

    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain

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    Yeah, there's plenty to be skeptical about. I never can figure out when I read stuff Alfred wrote whether he is just blowing smoke up my ass, or whether he really believed a lot of the stuff he said, or what. Lots of it sounds good, but lots of it sounds like total, impossible utter bullshit too....

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    Virtually none of what Sasquatch just said is true.

    Here's what's up:

    "Sasquatch" is a huge Canadian carpenter-guy from the semi-wilds of central Alberta, who captured and keeps an actual pipemaker prisoner in his shop-equipped basement. The pipes this guy produces are then sold for travel and hotel money so that "Sasquatch" can go to the Chicago show each year to drink beer, leer at the Scandinavian women, and entice a couple of foolish & impressionable newbie carvers to visit him in Alberta, where he will promptly EAT them... because what makes him so big is legit Sasquatch DNA. He's the Missing Link. (He's allowed to remain at large only because Justin Trudeau pees his pants and goes into a catatonic terror-state whenever he thinks about real men.)

    As Paul Harvey said: And now you know the rest of the story.

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    entice a couple of foolish & impressionable newbie carvers to visit him in Alberta, where he will promptly EAT them

    I thought he ate puppies.

    Don

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    No, that's what he accused his competition of doing.

    Sasquatches eat only humans. Everyone knows that.

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    Silly me... I beg for forgiveness of both you and Mr. Squatch.

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    SASQUATCH HUNGRY!!

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    PS it's Italian women, not so much scandinavian, George. Get it right.

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    Geeezzz... This is hilarious.

    George your a f'n riot!

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    Sure, BST pipes are great, but sometimes, he forgets to drill the draft hole, so be sure to check for that.

    Al

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    Oh thanks, yeah, now EVERYone is going to want a draft hole.

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    I just watched A Few Good Men last night for the umpteenth time, so I can say we DESERVE and we're entitled to Draft Holes!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopNAI8Pefg

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    YOU CAN'T HANDLE A DRAFT HOLE!

    Except that doesn't make any sense at all.....

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    Except that doesn't make any sense at all..... [:D]

    Nope, and exactly why I'll leave the comedy to you and the others!

    Posted 5 months ago #

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