I bought the Dagner because I wanted to try one of their pipes. Even though I have a tough time watching them on Utube and listening to them, I get the feeling Jayson is a pretty good guy. And because I don't think they fit the traditional pipe retailer/seller mold. I guess in that sense I think they are a breath of fresh air for the hobby even though I'm new to this. And if it is a good smoker then that is a bonus. They fill a unique niche.