Not sure, but I've dealt with Dan on a couple of pipe orders and he was a stand up guy. There was a mistake on one of my orders. A pipe I purchased actually was sold to someone else, but the site didn't update correctly. I mentioned another style of pipe that I was interested in and he took the time to snap some shots of a pipe they had in invenoty, plus another he thought I might like, and I ended up getting a great pipe in the end. Give them a call.