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  1. yadan

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    I have very recently experienced the displeasure of being sniped twice during the last seconds of bidding on two pipes I really wanted.
    I am currently bidding on another two great pipes, and would like to avoid disappointment again - if possible.
    So I was thinking of a bidding strategy; all I could come up with was not to bid until the last 20 seconds or so, and then to place a relatively high maximum bid that I believe would not be surpassed.

    If any of you care to share any 'trade secrets' about bidding for pipes on Ebay, I sure would appreciate it.
    Many thanks!

    "I'm always easy to please since I'm always satisfied with the very best." - Oscar Wilde
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    I don't have any great secrets and I have been outbid several times for pipes. I just figure out what the maximum is I am willing to pay for a pipe (including the shipping), and set my maximum bid at that. If I get the pipe, great; if not, oh well. My first GBD I was the only bidder on, and I fully expected to get outbid as my maximum bid was the minimum bid. Good luck!

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    Unless your max is pretty high or you are going for a pipe nobody wants (hard to tell when that's going to happen) sniping is about the only way to go. I have a pretty fast internet connection so I usually wait until 15s and click the bid button, then click confirm with 8 or less seconds left. I hate doing it that way but after losing 20+ auctions to snipers after putting in a reasonable max, it really seems to be the only way to get what you're after reliably.

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    All you can do is decide what you are willing to pay for a certain pipe, put your max bid in for that amount, and hope nobody drives it up to your max bid or beyond.

    If at first you don't succeed, have another bowl.
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    "Unless your max is pretty high or you are going for a pipe nobody wants (hard to tell when that's going to happen) sniping is about the only way to go. I have a pretty fast internet connection so I usually wait until 15s and click the bid button, then click confirm with 8 or less seconds left. I hate doing it that way but after losing 20+ auctions to snipers after putting in a reasonable max, it really seems to be the only way to get what you're after reliably."
    Thanks, Captain; seems like good advice.
    Thanks also to you other guys!

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    So funny that you posted this. About 2 hours ago, I got sniped in the last 5 seconds of a GBD auction. I was super disappointed, but here's the deal: enter the absolute MOST you are willing to pay and walk away. Constantly increasing your bid is a slippery slope. The psychology of the auction gets crazy. Rationally consider the MOST that you think is reasonable and don't check back until the auction is over.

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    This is the complete wrong way to do it, but:

    If I decide I absolutely have to have a pipe, I wait until 30 seconds to go and then bid $999. Ended up paying $402 for a $150 Dunhill shell once, but the other half dozen times I used that method they worked out OK.

    I don't collect pipes now, and no longer bid on anything on Ebay. I guess it's better than it used to be, but 12 to 15 years ago, it wasn't really that uncommon for a seller to take your money and never send the item you paid for. I did fine for a few years, then got screwed 4 or 5 times in a row, then quit for a few years, then went back for awhile and then stopped collecting pipes completely. I'll never enjoy Ebay again, though, those few times I got raped took all the fun out of it for me.

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    So funny that you posted this. About 2 hours ago, I got sniped in the last 5 seconds of a GBD auction

    Saw that GBD, that was a very nice pipe. Only went for a bit over $30, surprised you bid that low. I'd have gone half a hundred on that one

    (no, it wasn't me what got it, read above post)

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    The only way to go is to put up slightly less than what you want them in the last 20 seconds increase to your max. Snipers try to guess what your max is so you have to be sneekier than they are.

    A smile will always keep them guessing.
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    Haha, yeah Mike, it is ABSOLUTELY worth more than it sold for. I bid about $35 because I saw a comparable pipe go for something similar recently. I have a policy -- judge an amount based on recent history and current funds. It was a beauty and worth a LOT more than what it went for. If I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY wanted a pipe, I'd bid a huge amount and bask in my winnings. However, that has not happened to me...yet. I only shell out real dough for a NEW pipe.

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    Just do what everyone else is doing and decide what the max you'll pay and put that bid in. I usually put a bid in at 2 min. to see if anyone else is looking and then wait with another offer to click right before the end of the auction. 2 min. will usually draw out the other bidders if you become the high bidder. Just don't get carried away and bid more than it's worth or more than you're willing to pay including shipping.

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    The only way to go is to put up slightly less than what you want them in the last 20 seconds increase to your max. Snipers try to guess what your max is so you have to be sneekier than they are.

    That's my problem, it really isn't in me to be sneaky. I suppose it is sort of sneaky to bid a large amount at the end of an auction, but I've only done that to keep the resident Ebay-turdheads from increasing their bids half a dozen times before the auction can end trying to find where I put my high limit so they can go a buck over it. Doing it the way I did, it forced them to...well, "shit or get off the pot", so to speak. Either toss out a huge bid, or walk away and lose the item to me, the guy with the biggest balls

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    I think we all have had that happen to us a time or two. Like others have said have a good talk with yourself and set the max you are willing to pay and not a penny more. If you haven't noticed there are a butt load of pipes on Ebay. If the love of your life just got swiped from you another one will come along in short order.

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    "If I decide I absolutely have to have a pipe, I wait until 30 seconds to go and then bid $999. Ended up paying $402 for a $150 Dunhill shell once, but the other half dozen times I used that method they worked out OK."

    Yes, I thought of something similar, BUT
    if you bid $999 and someone in the last few seconds bids something like $900, you end up paying $901!

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    Yes, I thought of something similar, BUT
    if you bid $999 and someone in the last few seconds bids something like $900, you end up paying $901!

    Yep, there is definitely that risk. Like I said, whoever has the biggest balls. I always figured that few people had the 'nads to toss up a great big bid like that, and turns out I was right every time but once, and even then I only paid slightly over double what I thought it was worth

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    "If you haven't noticed there are a butt load of pipes on Ebay. If the love of your life just got swiped from you another one will come along in short order."

    Not if you're bidding on an estate that hasn't been in production for years...

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    I've gotten plenty of chances at pipes from the 30's-50's that if I missed out on one or went out of my price range another came along. I suppose you're right if it was a one of a kind but if it is a BBB, Kaywoodie or Peterson another can come along even nicer than the one lusted after but lost.

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    Speaking of bidding on pipes...can anyone tell me anything about this pipe? It's a nice looking piece, just needs cleaned up and a new finish. Would probably smoke like a dream.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1902-GLB-Wooden-Smoking-Pipe-with-Sterling-Silver-/281055653484?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417038ee6c

    Just because I ain't buying don't mean I ain't looking.

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    You sure can get some great deals on eBay, no doubt about it.

    My wife's business is all on the internet and a lot of it is done on eBay.

    I hate it LOL. I feel using eBay is like being in Marquis de Sade's castle with me being on the business end of his whip.

    I prefer to buy restored estates from reputable vendors. I have all the time in the world to reserve pipes and search the sites until I find something I want at a very good price. An added plus is I actually enjoy the process.

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    Well Mike you definately have a bigger pair than me.
    My husband would kill me if I bid $999 on anything. Ever since the lyre incident the most I can bid is $100.
    I like your plan though!

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    Lots of terrific advice so far. I'll just add that if you really don't have the stomach for the auction process -- or the desire to use a sniping program -- then I'd suggest keeping an eye out for those pipes that include a Buy It Now option. And then snag it quickly, if you want it. Because as soon as any bidding begins, the Buy It Now button disappears.

    Bob

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    "...Because as soon as any bidding begins, the Buy It Now button disappears."

    Hmm - I wasn't aware of that, thanks.
    And again thanks to all for the great input; I'll start applying it this evening!

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    I'm on a budget and can't hang with the big dogs on very desirable pipes. I've settled down on my eBay estate purchases, but for a while I was hot 'n heavy into it. I got so frustrated with losing to snipers that I eventually ate my ethics & used a sniper service on select pipes that I really really wanted.

    Otherwise, if you don't mind doing international trades, the German eBay has lots of pipes that usually go for more reasonable prices, just make sure they're not 9mm as many are the filter pipes & if you find something you gotta contact the seller to ask if they're cool with shipping to the States, many sellers over there take payPal but many more also only take bank transfers, so it takes a little extra legwork to get things lined up.

    here are some recently ended auctions, sometimes there's a true gem to be found for very cheap!
    http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=pfeife+gbd&_sacat=0&_odkw=pfeife+barling&_osacat=0&_from=R40&LH_Complete=1

    http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=pfeife+barling&_sacat=0&_odkw=pfeife+gbd&_osacat=0&_from=R40&LH_Complete=1

    http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=pfeife+parker&_sacat=0&_odkw=pfeife+barling&_osacat=0&_from=R40&LH_Complete=1

    http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=pfeife+charatan&_sacat=0&_odkw=pfeife+england&_osacat=0&_from=R40&LH_Complete=1

    Another thing I use is this CollectorsWeekly site, looking for gems that only had a few watchers is one way to find stuff you know won't be crazy fierce bidding wars, pipes that have like 98 watchers are the ones that go for insane money so then I'd know pretty much I wass out of the running, a good tool to gauge what to go for, I've found it quite helpful...
    http://www.collectorsweekly.com/tobacciana/pipes/auctions?sort=most-watched

    It's really a great feeling when you win a pipe and then it gets to your mailbox and lives up to everything you thought it was!

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    I set my price that I am willing to pay and hit it with 7 seconds left, if I win great if I don't no big deal, there are tons of pipes out there. I do make it a point to never ever get in a bidding war or bid on a pipe where I think shills are involved.

    Harris
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    I too was into the eBay hysteria to obtain dunhills until I began to realize that I was getting obsessed watching the auction start out at reasonable levels and at the last one minute go nuts with pricing going way beyond reason

    I agree with those who suggested to decide a price in advance and just walk away until its over

    It is so easy to overbid

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    I just started smoking the pipe and I only had two that my brother gave me. So I started on E-bay like so many others. I try to research what a resonable bid is, I am not alway good at this. I set my limit and post with a few seconds left. I don't always expect to get something, but it is nice when I get a pipe I wanted. I do wish there was a way to determine the fair value of an item in advance.

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