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Awards Shows: Are There Too Many?

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  1. scloyd

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    Oscar's, Tony, Emmy, Grammy, Golden Globes, Billboard, Country Music, Screen Actors Guild (SAG), Black Entertainment Television (BET), KId's Choice, People's Choice, Critic's Choice, Espys...did I leave anyone out?

    Are there too many award shows and do you watch any of them? I don't.

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    Are there too many award shows and do you watch any of them?

    Yes, no.

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    Most of them are more about what people wear or in some cases don't wear anyway, so they hardly matter. I watched Bohemian Rhapsody, quite the Oscar movie, and it was really bad. No gimmicks can save a badly told story. Awards are more about politics than they are about telling stories.

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    Definitely, and no way.

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    Short answer: yes; no.

    Long answer: That's one reason I don't have television: way too much bullshit.

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    Nope. I watched them years ago, when it was more about acknowledging one's talent and less about kissing each other's hind ends and pushing their political BS on the viewers.

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    kissing each other's hind ends and pushing their political BS on the viewers.

    That's the very reason I don't watch any award shows.

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    I hate watching all award shows. I dont watch any of them, untill my wife forces me to for certain reasons. Otherwise, I could care less.

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    Well thanks, guys. I guess there's no point casting my EMMY vote.

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    Of course, if there was a pipe and tobacco award show, I'd watch that! We can call the trophy a "Puffy."

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    Most award shows just seem ... well, too self-serving and peer driven for my interest. So too many.

    I really do not care what other actors/actresses/producers/grips/directors/gaffers/etc. think of each other. But, recognition by one's peers is damned important. So the awards should continue with all the pomp and stuff but, without the TV cameras.

    They do draw an audience though, sell lots of ad time so, our opinions are not worth diddly.

    Jesse Silver's EMMY won't be on the televised show. They'll probably FedEx it to his house. So, we will learn of it here first, I suspect.

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    Jesse Silver's EMMY won't be on the televised show. They'll probably FedEx it to his house. So, we will learn of it here first, I suspect.
    I'd watch the Emmys for Jesse. But only if he accepted his Emmy with pipe in mouth. That would be awesome.

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    I'd watch the Emmys for Jesse. But only if he accepted his Emmy with pipe in mouth. That would be awesome.

    Don't hold your breath. My work has won several clios, a couple of EMMY's and an Oscar, but with other people's names taking credit for it. Such is the glamour of Hollywood. Seriously, if I ever get nominated for an EMMY you will know that the sun is about to go supernova and evaporate the planet. But I would have a pipe in my kisser all the same.

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    I don't know how many award shows there are, but I'm sure it's too many. I do not watch them.

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    I watched Bohemian Rhapsody, quite the Oscar movie, and it was really bad. No gimmicks can save a badly told story. Awards are more about politics than they are about telling stories.

    I haven't seen that yet, but I'm disappointed to hear the story was flubbed.

    And you have touched on the essence of the whole problem with Hollywood these days...for the most part, they've lost the art of story telling. Way too much of what they churn out is contrived and agenda-driven.

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    There are way too many awards and self-congratulations. To steal a quote from Milan Kundera: They are "brought to tears of gratification at their own reflection in the mirror."

    I don't watch anymore.

    These people are only entertainers. A few are artists. Some are talented, but in the end, few if any are worth our admiration or attention.

    I would tune in if Sable was winning one!

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    Award shows -- long speeches inappropriate to the viewing audience, over-produced musical numbers, smarmy video segments, skewed voting on awards -- they were, in their hay day, aversion therapy, dropping you on the floor at one in the morning having learned nothing and marinated in bad experiences. The Oscars have worked hard to keep it short and make it palatable, but are only a little successful. On the other hand, there are so many media outlets now including the internet, that there is probably a demographic niche for nearly everything, with small viewer groups. I think the flaunting of clothing and fawning attention is overtly unappealing, a real insult to the poor non-celebrity folks who fall down in the couch to watch. The public is being diminished and overlooked with lavish aplomb. It's all a misunderstanding of accomplishment. No wonder so many celebs die young, have miserable personal lives, act out in public, live with substance abuse and abuse of others. The whole events should be taped and then edited to about twenty minutes, with full lists of awardees offered online -- I'd run the lists before the event, but that would never happen. But as long as millions will tune in or click on, masochistically, these will be offered up with a big ladle like bad soup.

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    Absolutely and absolutely not.

    I'd rather tune in to one of the old Dean Martin Celebrity Roasts. Now that is entertainment!

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    Who won? Nobody, and the audience comes in last.

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    I've been a total downer on this, and I really don't enjoy award shows. But I admit, some people love their one or two favorite award shows every year, and some will watch any award show at all, for the human interest, personalities, and competitive psychology. I like all of those, just not in award shows. So if you like 'em, I say enjoy.

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    Way too much of what they churn out is contrived and agenda-driven.

    Entertainment is a business, and occasionally an art. It produces what the audience buys. Stop consuming crap and they will stop producing crap.

    Support more thoughtful and creative entertainment and that's what the suits will offer.

    And that's the biggest problem. The audience doesn't really support risk taking, so there won't be risk taking. By and large, people like middle brow predictable crap.

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    ^ I agree for the most part...because the masses in general certainly seem to have an insatiable appetite for crap of every type and flavor. This does not however negate the rather obvious fact that there is an intentional agenda inserted into much of the "product" being put out in recent years...which is a separate issue from the general low brow nature of things.

    Certainly there have always been agenda issues involved in entertainment of every kind, but IMO not to the extent or the crass nature of it that we see now.

    But I also think a big part of the problem in relation to "feature films" is that theater attendance can't be anywhere near the levels it used to be due to the digital age (this is an assumption on my part because I don't know what the actual numbers are...but I for one rarely go to a theater anymore) and most people have what amounts to a mini theater in their home these days with big screen TV and stereo sound.

    I often think of how it was before VCR's made their appearance. The only time you got to see a feature film outside of a movie theater was on network television...all edited to pieces and full of commercials...and probably years after its theater release. In those days I never dreamed I'd be able to watch movies at home the way I can now.

    There are a lot of good movies on DVD that were made over the last few decades that were unsuccessful in theaters...or in some cases were never in theaters at all. The theater audiences these days especially love the junk...or so it seems.

    But to get back to the OP, nothing has been as politicized and agenda-driven in more recent years than the award shows, and the awards themselves...IMO.

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    This does not however negate the rather obvious fact that there is an intentional agenda inserted into much of the "product" being put out in recent years...which is a separate issue from the general low brow nature of things.

    There's been that facet since the beginning of the film biz, and frankly, it was much more crude, crass, and obvious than it is now. In a way, that was better because it was so much easier to spot. Films reflect their times whether intentional or not, and they can offer some very startling windows to cultural biases.

    Awards shows have definitely become more politicized and less fun, with actors pretending to be pundits rather than just thanking their peers and the other people who helped along the way, and I haven't watched them in years, but what hasn't become more politicized? Everything is subject to people pushing their agendas. BFD. People generally bitch not because there's an agenda, but because the agenda being presented is different from theirs. It's not OK for your fairy tale version of reality to be different from my fairy tale version of reality, so I'm going to bitch about you getting a platform to present your fairy tale version of reality.

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    Those are fair points Sable, but I still think it's worse now...but that's just my opinion. I can see your argument as well.

    I would only add that my perspective on this is not a "left vs right" one. I could easily cite examples of what would be generally perceived as right-wing propaganda being pushed by Hollywood in recent years as well...but I won't go down that rabbit hole here of course.

    I'll just say that from my perspective the left/right are not really in opposition, but part of the same overall agenda.

    Now I've probably already said too much.

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