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Anyone else feel wierd about smoking an estate pipe?

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  1. seagullplayer

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    Why do people find this so divisive?

    Options can be funny things and are not always easily defended.

    Some people pay to jump out of an airplane. You couldn't pay me to do it.

    Some people get tattoos, some wouldn't even consider it.

    Some people punch holes in parts of their body that some think had enough holes to start with.

    For those that find smoking a used pipe weird arguments from those that don't believe that way are
    not likely to help.

    I'm not big on used pipes either there seems to be some stigma attached to it for me.
    If its your thing, I don't think less of you for it, have at it.

    I find a stigma attached to eating dogs but in some places they don't.

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    Horses, too. Me, every month I crave me a hot dog.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    Yummy horseburgers! (I write this without intention imply irrationality with opposing distaste for abuse of equine carcasses.)

    When I add to this that I'm first-owner of my guitars and basses, that I haven't owned a pre-owned vehicle in 30 years, and the entirety of my active pipe rotation (save one, my first pipe) we're purchased new, it's not to imply that I don't appreciate that folks who play used musical instruments are giving them an extended life, nor do I fail to acknowledge that a used car is a practical option for folks as a cost-effective means of personal transportation, nor that I don't find folks contemplating the long and varied history of the pipes they're smoking fascinating.

    I don't find smoking estate pipes to be off-putting, but I get it that some people do. I have only ever bought three used pipes. Two of them I've never used, only because their current states speak their history to me, and I'm preserving them for what they were when I got them.

    I am bugged by folks who qualify their point of view by belittling dissention. I leave that to cheap politicians and iPhone vs. Andriod pundits.

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    I prefer all beef hot dogs.

    I am glad we have a good admin and responsible moderators.

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    This sort of degenerative thread is EXACTLY why people leave threaded forums.

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    Good points, ophi. We all have opinions (and orifices) and are free to express them, but the crap that sometimes follows is destructive.

    I've heard folks say they were informed after the fact that they had eaten a horseburger which they thought was delicious—until they'd been told!

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    I ate iguana soup once and I thought it was quite delicious, my grandpa told me after I ate it, I was kind of shocked!! the lizard taste just like chicken breast, although my grandpa was looking for a different reaction.

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    Well, that's 5 minutes of my life I will never get back.

    What was this thread about again??

    "People are not made better by a briar. An idiot before smoking a pipe is still an idiot after smoking a pipe, they're just more likely to speak less drivel with something in their mouth. For that, all society should be grateful."

    - Bob Runowski
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    This thread? It's all about having a bit of fun now. The OP has been discussed and cussed, now we go off on tangents, lots of assorted tangents. Sometimes it's what we do best.

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    well said warren, well said.

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    This thread? It's all about having a bit of fun now. The OP has been discussed and cussed, now we go off on tangents, lots of assorted tangents. Sometimes it's what we do best.

    Works for me.

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    This thread? It's all about having a bit of fun now

    99% of them are, some are just thin skinned, it's a lot like the TV, if you don't like the show, change the channel

    Nowhere in the world will such a brotherly feeling of confidence be experienced as amongst those who sit together smoking their pipes
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    People get torn up that threads end up like this, but in "real life" that is the way it works.

    The subject was about buying new or used pipes. How long does that take to run out of steam?

    I'm sure some adult will be along shortly to...

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    I'm sure some adult will be along shortly to...

    LOL. I'm fine with them goin awry. Always fun to read... sometimes a bit mundane. Hey, if I don't like it, I'll hit the back arrow.

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    I recently discovered that I have 3 estate pipes (from my great-grandfather). I have not decided whether or not I will smoke them, but I am planning to have them restored (once I find someone to do it).

    If I were to smoke an estate pipe, it would have to be adequately cleaned. Someone mentioned using ever clear.

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    "Someone mentioned using ever clear."

    Yes, drink enough of it and you will see the pipe in a different light.

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    Everyone note, that it was not me who messed this one up. Or, at least I don't think I did.

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    No, you're in the clear. The Everclear.

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    - Glad that's 'cleared up.

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    I've smoked only one new/unsmoked pipe. I felt weird about it because of what I paid for it. I feel smart smoking estates and not taking the financial hit. I feel the same way about cars.

    Nate @ Moody AL
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    I really treasure some of my estates, like my birthyear Dunhill.

    I haven't read any of the other posts. Did anyone discuss germs and sanitizing pipe and stuff? 'cause that's a thing.

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    I haven't bought a new truck since '05, turned out to be a nice car. I replaced it with a '93 GMC, much happier and have since moved up to a '95 GMC. I did enjoy new vehicles every couple of years but in hindsight taking a hit on the depreciation grew tiresome. Newer trucks have way too much electronics etc. for me, the wife's BMW is scary/expensive enough to repair. Buying used is alright for many things although many things are out of bounds, underwear ? Socks ?

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    This is dedicated to all who have posted on this thread (I guess that includes me now) and all who have actually read every word of the entire monstrosity.

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    Socks are underwear, they are worn under one's shoes/boots

    Anyway, I think the census is that estate pipes make for fine smoking implements unless of course you think otherwise

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    Jay.

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    Speaking of which, I find that wearing no underwear to be a lot like wearing a cowbell that only I can hear.

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    I drive my girlfriend to work in just my boxers. She really wishes I would use the car.

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    Socks are underwear, they are worn under one's shoes/boots

    So if I go to visit someone and take my shoes off (kind of a Canadian thing) taking my pants off would be no different?

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    I think that would hinge on the purpose of the visit.

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    One of my estate pipes was my grandfather. My Aunt gave me two of his pipes at the family get-together after the funeral. I still have one - a Yello Bole Briar Spartan - and smoke it every now and then. The other was a Whitehall mini and I gave it to one of my sons. He smokes it when he has only has about 10 or 15 minutes for a bowl.

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    To each their own.

    Me, I'm in this for the smoking experience, not the history. Plus, I have a preference for virgins

    Not that I don't have interest in history, but it may be different with pipes - somebody could have died while smoking that one. So if you find yourself suddenly shy about smoking one that you thought would be super, perhaps it has a ghost (of a different nature than typical).

    Current favorite 'baccies:

    Peterson Irish Oak, MacBaren Navy Flake, H&H Classic Burley Kake
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    I think that would hinge on the purpose of the visit.

    Never considered that

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    On a side note, there are 3 Rad Davis estates for sale at Briar blues as we speak.

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    I have several estates. My treasure is a pipe a friend gave me before he died. I had no thoughts of not smoking it right away, and did. No cleaning, no Everclear, no nothing. Just put in tobacco and lit it up.

    I now own three or four more historic old pipes. One is from an antique shop. Ran one Everclear through it, and filled it with tobacco.

    The others have come from a reliable online retailer. Loaded them up and smoked them right out of the box.

    Now, that's not for everyone, I realize. I'm an old pipesmoker. Got 40 years in. What works for me, might not work for you. That's fine. We both can enjoy our pipes, the new ones and the used ones.

    One thing I have wondered, though, is if smoking an estate bothers you, you don't need to go to a tobacco barn to see tobacco leaves hanging over a wide variety of manure scraps scattered across a dirt floor. Just sayin'.


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    Yes. I never smoke a used pipe.

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    Phooey! I bid $50 on a Dunhill, and didn't meet the reserve. I just got the e-mail from eBay that it sold for $51.

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    I like estate pipes. I will go two days before I use a public toilet!

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    I enjoy estate pipes. With a good cleaning it's as good as new.

    "Keep it Classy"
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    Does a pipe which found it's way to "estate" status because it was a poor smoking pipe

    I suppose it can happen if the pipe looks fairly unused, but an estate pipe that is obviously well-smoked with years if not decades of break-in on it, I hardly think so. I haven't yet had a single bad estate pipe, and if I got it at a good price, all the better. I like old things and it gives me great pleasure to take what might have been a lost, forgotten, neglected or even abandoned pipe from its prior owner get a whole new life, restored as new, and loved and cherished again to be allowed to continue to fulfill its maker's purpose!

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    My guess is "estate" is almost synonymous now with "pre-smoked", "used" or "second hand". Sounds a bit tonier, no? As used cars are now "Pre-owned".

    Waaaay back in the day, rich folk in London and Paris might hire a bloke to break in his pipe. What a job! Cosmic would love it, as well as any who love the first taste of briar smoldering.

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    I can't believe that I have read every post on this thread. It has been a fun and thrilling journey. Also, I was inspired and just found another great estate pipe. A Kaywoodie flame grain in the rare small chub billiard (85) shape. It's like an old school devil anse. Looking forward to it coming in the mail.

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    So you are the guy! That was a nice one. Glad to see it landed in the neighborhood at least

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    Perception is a funny thing. Some see it as eating out of a garbage pail while others see a diamond in the ruff. I just finished cleaning and sanitizing an estate pipe from the early 70's. This was my first expedition into estate pipes and won't be my last. BTW, I'm smoking it now

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    I guess all the vintage Barling's Make I salivate over will now fall in price?

    ALL my first pipes were "estates" - my father's rarely used (and hence not missed when I filched them) and those inherited from grandfather. I also have no problem with four Ebay sellers (all well known here) and those from sp.com.
    Beyond that, I "window" shop alot and very rarely buy any others.

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    I actually see to have an opposite problem: when I buy a new pipe I tend to not smoke it for a while and go back to my used ones, because I fear I might ruin the new pipe, or it won't smoke good.

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    I have no problem smoking an estate pipe with my effete lips. HeHe

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    @randelli, once I got the price down it was a no brainer.

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    @cobguy:
    Fomites! So you must smoke new naked pipes while naked? Novel idea. Those pesky fomites are indeed everywhere.

    Most of my pipes are estate pipes which I thoroughly ream, clean & sanitize. Just wish that I had an ozonator as well.

    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
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    @cobguy:
    Fomites! So you must smoke new naked pipes while naked?

    Guilty!

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    Perception is a funny thing. Some see it as eating out of a garbage pail while others see a diamond in the ruff. I just finished cleaning and sanitizing an estate pipe from the early 70's.

    Well, the only difference between carbon graphite and a diamond is time and pressure. Just remember, as Michelangelo once said, "Beneath every dirty estate pipe is a perfectly clean brand new pipe!"

    (He really did say that)

    Assuming you bought a really dirty estate pipe. Most are just slightly to moderately used.

    Damn! Gotta go! Time to sit out on the patio and smoke another darling estate pipe worth easily $150 or more that I got for a song!

    (maybe even just a whistle)

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  52. cosmicfolklore

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    Hey, I thought this was about pipes. Now, you guys are gonna start bashing eating out of garbags pails. Sheesh! Snobs!

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    Does this thread go away when it hits 200 comments?

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    PappyMac, your question sounds optimistic, hopeful and yet rhetorical. I think this thread will, unfortunately, survive past common sense.

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    So, the thread righted itself and we are back to used pipes, hygiene, and garbage cans. We have to use bear proof cans up here. There not indigent proof though. I'll bet they find a used pipe now and then.

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    Sometimes, late at night when the wife and kids are in bed, I put peanut butter in my slippers so when I smoke my estate pipe I feel weird.

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    Zekest, do you wear jammies too?

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    It always amazes me to read people complain about threads they don't like and have no interest in, yet prove by their very posting to it that they are still reading them with interest! The psychologist in me would wonder if they don't secretly have an estate pipe envy fixation.

    Cure: Give in to your mental hang-ups, start buying, restoring, and using great, old estate pipes along with all of your new pipes and find out what all the fun is about, and you can take all the money you saved and buy a bunch more tobacco to smoke in them!

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    Also a curiosity: Why, when an OP asks for ONE thing you like, smoke, buy, hate or whatever, some folks insist on posting a whole list?

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    200th go away

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    One of the funniest threads I've read in weeks.

    Matt, "effete" is a word. But it's just a word: a good word, maybe even a grand one but we've all been called worse. Let it go, bub, and laugh it off.

    I love old things: pipes, records, Boy Scout patches, Bourbons, Wine, friends.

    Estate pipes make up the heart and soul of my collection: a '28 Dunhill, vintage Comoy's & seconds, vintage GBD's & seconds, vintage Charatans & seconds and a boatload of Danish briar. I'm currently awaiting a cleaned up, vintage Jobey pot from Danielplainview and a couple of 2nd hand Blatter's from my favorite Canadian, Pruss.

    I can't wait to smoke them. And respect their history. And enjoy their .20 to .25 cents value on the dollar.

    Cheers, all,

    Fnord

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    Love my estate pipes btw! I put them in my mouth and tongue their wee wittle nobbies and everything! Sometimes I even put bakkie in them and schmokerize da daylights outa 'em!

    “Deep peace of the running wave to you.
 Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
 Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
 Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
    Deep peace of the infinite peace to you." - Fiona Macleod
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    I love it when people make posts in Latin so that we have to work harder to figure out just what they are saying is just the same old gobblelygook that is just random words used by printers to fill space when designing a layout.

    I actually find this thread enlightening. Or, at least some of the comments.

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    Yay!!! Pappymac!! Me too! A lot of our posts here are as substantial as Lorem Ispum... but way more fun!

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    Good point, @orobusto. I guess we may be smoking with a few ghosts when we enjoy our estate pipes. I'm personally glad it creeps some people out, as it will keep the prices lower that way.

    Exactly! Too each his own, and personally - thank you to everyone, who for whatever reasons, does not compete in the estate pipe market. I mean that sincerely. It is tough enough with those already willing to buy them.

    When I fist started buying better quality estates that were relatively inexpensive. With many people, like myself, being educated by quality information shared by various members here on the forum and elsewhere, they are getting more competitive to bid on. Ahhhh....the good old days

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    I know what you mean, okie, I got outbid on a very nice estate pipe tonight. It was heartbreaking...

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    Assuming it's been cleaned properly what's the big deal? Do take your own drinking glasses and cutlery to restaurants?

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    Well, since you put it that way, it makes perfect sense. I'm cured!

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    I'm not sure if anyone still reads this, or if anyone cares anymore. I found this article interesting. I agree but also disagree. I would and have used a pipe that was passed down to me within my family but I know it was kept clean and I know where it's been. On the othe other hand I couldn't bring myself to buy an estate pipe from eBay, you have no idea what that person has, if they have passed away what's the cause or anything. No I'm not scared of death we all have to go sometime and of truth be told we are all waiting for it and that's the only certainty we have in life so what's the be scared of but that's for a different day. Yes and no. A pipe passed down within the family yes I would but a random pipe no I wouldn't. for these who bang on about using cutlery and glasses that's a slight difference. 1) metal ie cutlery is sterilisable item. 2) glasses and cutley are washed in heat. Abit of difference than a flimsy pipe cleaner and wood that cannot be sterilised.

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    Not afraid of death. But I'm terrified of things that make my life miserable by making me ill without killing me.

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