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Another Dunhill Tanshell Project

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  1. didimauw

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    I received this pipe in a mystery package.
    From what I think, it's a 1960. Correct me if I'm wrong.



    It seemed to be in great shape, not much charring, the stem was in good condition, not even much cake in the bowl.


    And it has a massive band on it, for only this little crack? I mean Come on. No big deal.

    This will be another fun project.

    First I took the stinger out. Pulled out without any effort, almost fell out by itself.

    Then of course I had to remove the band around the bowl covering the small crack. Looks like it was held on using pins.
    So with a tiny flat head screwdriver on my Leatherman, I dug out the tiny, tiny pins.

    The band had been on for who knows how long, but it didn't want to come off by itself. So I used a wire cutters to get underneath it, and basically cut it off.


    And then I got to get a closer look at the tiny crack on the front of the bowl.

    Hmm...

    Umm...

    Now I understand the reason for the huge band.

    WOW

    Shining a light inside the bowl, I could see it from the outside. Not Good.

    So I soaked a cotton ball in alcohol, to remove more dirt and debris, and get a better look at what we have going on here.


    And I tryed to clean inside the crack a little as well, with a dental pick and more alcohol, and the alcohol went right through the crack.

    So before I even touch the inside of the bowl, I wanted to reinforce the outside. So like the last project, I packed the crack with briar dust


    And then dripped super glue on it



    And let that harden for a couple hours. And sanded.

    And I almost forgot, I had to do that to the Pin holes from the band as well.

    In an attempt to blend in the patch, I decided to apply some stain onto it before doing anything else.

    And while letting that sit, I scrubbed the inside of the shank, which wasn't that bad at all.

    Then with some 180 and 220 grit sandpaper, I lightly sanded everything again, followed by some micromesh pads.
    But the band seemed to permanently darken the outside of the bowl, and this is as good as I could get it.



    I then mixed up another batch of JB Weld to cover the cracks from the inside of the bowl

    Letting that dry, I attempted to clean the rim of the pipe. I used some Murphys Oil Soap on a cotton ball, and scrubbed as hard as I could. And this is as good as I could get it.

    I need to find a better way, Because I really don't want to have to top it. But I will if that's what It takes.

    And now I wait for the JB Weld to dry.

    "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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  2. cosmicfolklore

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    Cool, cool, cool... once my blood pressure came down from seeing that you cut that awesome band off. Was the band holding something structurally together? I mean, I wouldn't put something on like that without a reason.

    But, it's your ball of wax... and you're doing good... really. continue... are you going to put another band on it like that?

    Michael
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  3. didimauw

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    For the repairs I'm doing, the band wont shouldn't be necessary. But if I decide to do so, I know a guy who does good silver work.

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  4. cosmicfolklore

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    and, you put JB Weld on the inside of the bowl? Have you done this before? Do you not smell that aroma it has? anyways... continue... I don't mean to criticize. Umm... yes, don't mind me. You're doing great... really.

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  5. dmcmtk

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    For the rim, I would put some iso on a paper towel, lay the paper towel on a flat surface, and rub the rim on the paer towel in a circular motion and see how much of the tars/blackening comes off. You could then hit it with 0000 steel wool and see where you end up.

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  6. didimauw

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    Cosmic u haven't seen my other thread? I'm offended. I could have swore u popped in there to criticize comment! Or are you the kind that skips parts?

    And no, it's ordorless and tasteless. And once the bowl is coated afterwards, which will happen later or tomorrow, you won't even know it's there.

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  7. didimauw

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    And Dave, I tried iso on paper towel as well, and rubbed by hand, and it still wouldn't come off...I like the steel wool idea... I'll try that

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  8. cosmicfolklore

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    Ok, I will shut up. I didn't read the whole thread on the last one. But man, I can smell a piece of turquoise that has JB Weld on it, even if it was added to it in 1960. It has an axle grease smell to me, that never goes away. When I have to take in a repair that has turquoise, I always smell it first. If it has an axle grease smell, and I don't touch it. But, if you can't smell it... that's what matters. Right?

    I'll shut up now.

    really.

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  9. didimauw

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    That's...just...terrible...

    My nose may be worse than yours!

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    Do you make your own sugar glue or do you purchase it?

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    I don't think I'd want JB Weld in the chamber either, seems like asking for trouble with it giving off chemicals when it heats up. Why worry? I'd ditch that & the cigar ash & try unsanded white grout first, which I've used before to fill a pit in the chamber much more effectively than ash.

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    You might want to try a scotchbrite pad, before the steel wool (always start with the least abrasive materials possible). I've had some good success with the scotchbrite pad and it rarely damages the stain color.

    Al

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    I was in a shoe store in the New Orleans area yesterday, they had polish and Fieblings! The shop owner (a real, honest to goodness shoe stores, not a mall/chain store)asked what I was using it for. He didn't seem surprised and said folks have many uses for it!

    Good luck on your project, I'll stay tuned for updates. That must have been a prized Dunhill to warrant that level of creativeness on the repair.

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  14. didimauw

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    Ooooooo Al, yes I like the scotch brite idea too! I'll start there! Yes I love seeing the well worn battered loved friends. Thinking about the stories. The things they have seen, places they have been.

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    Any updates?

    I really enjoy these threads.

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  16. didimauw

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    Shanez, I wouldn't even know how to make super glue. So I buy it. Lol. And as of right now I wasn't happy with my jb weld repair, so I re did it tonight, and will continue in the morning.

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    These are fantastic threads. Thank you.

    Ubi Ignis Est?
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    Holy. Crap., didi. Now, see, THIS is why (OK, OK, *part* of why!) I don't do resto. Gawdalmighty, that thing was purt near a basket case & you worked Serious Magic on it. Talk about a labor of love -- wowz!

    B

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    Haha thanks guys! I'm just trying not to screw it up.

    So I'm trying something new this time. Instead of the pipe mud on the inside.

    So I sanded down the JB weld to smooth it out, and get the excess out.

    Then I was going to use maple syrup to coat the bowl. But...I hate maple syrup, so we don't own any. But the wife has blue agave sweetner so I thought I'd try that.

    So I used a qtip to coat the whole inside of the bowl and waited for it to get a little sticky. Then I sprinkled a big pinch of activated charcoal on the inside.

    and shook it vigorously.

    And now I wait for it to dry.

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    And again, since I'll be keeping this pipe for myself, I think I'm not going to try to get the discoloration on the outside any better, and I may just wax it like it is. Kinda gives it a Frankenstein look. You can't always hide some scars. Goes for people too. Haven't decided yet.

    Plus I realize that with my last one, after staining it, it's no longer a tanshell... I kinda feel bad

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    Great work!

    I need to learn to read though. I've been reading it as "sugar" glue which is used in food decorating. My mind thought "well, okay, maybe it crystallizes and hardens which is why he is using it". Yeah, super glue, probably a much better choice.

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    Hahaha I thought you just maybe had a typo, then I went and re read my posts to make sure I wasn't putting "sugar glue"

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    I commend the heroic effort. It might result in a good old smoking pipe that you'll enjoy for years. At the least, you'll have quite a story to tell. It's true you don't want to get too many chemicals close to the heat and fire. Probably the carbon layer will wall them off, but really volatile materials will gas off just being warmed. Anyway, you'll usually know by nose. It's a riveting tale. The raising of Lazarus of the pipe world.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    Probably the carbon layer will wall them off, but really volatile materials will gas off just being warmed.

    See? "Sugar" glue would crystallize and then turn to carbon! I'm not crazy?

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    Ok finally back to it. Had some delays, due to family health.

    So onto the stem. There was some deep dents in it, on the stem itself, and on the button.

    I used super glue to fill them.


    And then filed.

    And sanded.

    And then micromesh polished. And well, it turned out ok I guess. Better than it was.
    And yes the pictures I took, I spent a while looking for the right angles so flaws wouldn't show...haha


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    And working on the top of the bowl, the more I got it clean, the more charring and damage I found. So yeah, I topped it.

    I should have named this the stupid ugly Dunhill Zombie thread....

    So I tried my best to chamfer the inside of the bowl, to hide the huge char mark. First lightly with a Dremel...yeah that was dangerous, then hand sanded with 220 grit.

    And kept going, and I think this is as good as I care to get it.

    Soon it will be totally covered in cake and I won't be able to see it anyways.

    I tried to take this "refurbishing/repair/demolishion" serious, and realized... This is hard stuff.

    Or I could have named this thread, " How Georged DOESNT repair pipes" haha

    Even my tamper is frowning at me...

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    So, I still wasn't happy with the coating on the inside. Didn't seem to harden like I had hoped. So I used a tip from josephcross and mixed the activated charcoal, with....

    Sour cream...

    I don't have any exact measurements. Just mixed it together till it turned a dark grey color.

    I'm told it hardens very well, and the scent will go away within a day or so. So we shall see.

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    So after letting the new bowl coating sit, and harden I was finally happy with it. That method worked like a charm!

    Then I had to deal with the stem. Couldn't for the life of me get it to fit inside the shank. Then I remembered reading about pencil graphite as a lube. So u sharpened a pencil, and lubed the tenon with it. AMAZING. Couldn't believe it. Slid in without any issue.

    Then I loaded my Rossi up with some Carter Hall and headed to the garage to buff the pipe.

    One good coat of caranauba wax, and here's the final pictures of the Dunhill Tanshell zombie.

    Yes there's some smudges on the stem I hadn't cleaned up yet, but I'm done. IM DONE!!!

    This project had me sweating, nervous, anxious, and down right angry at times honestly. I believe this will be the last project I work on.

    This was much harder, and much more work that I anticipated.

    I think I'll leave the rest to the professionals.

    The end.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    I think you did a great job on the refurbishment on that old Dunny that has seen better days, now you have given this pipe a second life, just like Dr. Frankenstein did with his subject or "Monster"

    If all else failed I suppose you could have made it into a real monster pipe like Ollie Sylvester of Monstrosity pipes does to his creations.

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    I would stain ‘er black, no one will ever know it had problems.

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    I would stain ‘er black, no one will ever know it had problems.

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