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And I was removing buildups and oxidation

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  1. paulie66scandinavian

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    Well, shortly prior to attempting removing light oxidation and dirt buildups from this very estate Stanwell 29 Royal Briar I shoulda been refreshing my memory and watch our forum member Georged*YTube video on stem refurbish, I was very close to round edges on this stem despite I tried to be cautious I could ,on the first hand I ought to be using flat fingernail file wrapped with sanding paper to prevent this happening,not too bad damages but obviously, eventually I might have ended up with round stem shoulder' edges.Then there is still this one question, how to save the brand logo while polishing.


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  2. daniel7

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    I used toothpaste (whitening) and soft toothbrush on my vintage BBB, but it has a metal logo.

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    I wish I could figure out how to do it safely on my Sav Autograph. That VERY lightweight gold squiggle worries me.

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  4. paulie66scandinavian

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    Let wait and see when Georged chimes in,he may have some sound advice to share.
    @Daniel7:I must keep in mind for future,but in this particular case even a mix of Toothpaste&BarTenderFriend(Vim)did not seem to give no particular effect.

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    Seems like it could be covered with tape and then buffed around, but that's conjecture. Await the experts.

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  6. paulie66scandinavian

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    Then there is this trick some folks seem to favor,the oxiclean bath prior to sanding, says it will soften oxidation and makes sanding easier ,nontheless I'm a bit apprehensive of using that method because of possible chlorine smell and residue it may leave afterwards.

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  7. mikethompson

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    I was always told that sanding was the last resort, past toothpaste, bar keepers friend, Baking soda, and the like.

    I've used oxyclean on my Brighams stem to good results.

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  8. paulie66scandinavian

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    @MikeThopson,Thanks I have heard that too,once I had been using this bleach bath with one of my badly oxidized Savinelli pipe, while it definitely did help to get surface softer and easier to sand,but afterwards I couldn't get rid off that faint smell even I rinsed and plunged stem in boiling water.
    to note,I left the stem soaked overnight and the mix was strong enough something like in ratio of 60%

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  9. georged

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    The bleach soak thing creates as many problems as it solves---some of them VERY difficult to set right---and you'll end up sanding in every case, anyway.

    So, since you know exactly where you want to go, it's faster and easier to travel 1000 miles west than 23000 east to get there.

    Cold impress logo retention is sometimes possible, but usually not. Getting a stamp made and re-doing it is the only real answer, but that's both expensive and EXTREMELY difficult to do without specialized equipment (the necessary rolling action cannot be ignored or a partial stamp results, and accomplishing a controlled "spin" of the stem under heavy pressure can't be done manually with any degree of repeatable success).

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  10. didimauw

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    Yes my Stanwell logo started chipping off right away. Then with curiosity, I scraped it with my fingernail. The whole thing came right off. Stupid on my end. But I've never dealt with a logo so easily damaged.

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    Depends on the Stanwell line. Most of my logos are steel of some sort, deeply implanted into the stem material. The lower cost ones are just printed on the stems and will inevitably come off.

    I love the 29 shape so much I have two! One of my 29’s, The Trio, has the logo implanted but the lower grade 29, Brushed Brown, the logo is just printed on the stem.

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    I use an Oxiclean bath for the stem and put a dab of Vaseline on the logo to prevent damage. It works in most cases.

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  13. paulie66scandinavian

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    Thank You, Boys, for your input, Much obliged.

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    Correcting the model number of this very pipe,it actually is now discontinued Stanwell model of 61 a Little bit slimmer and lighter to its older brother model of 29 which is still in production model line.

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    Paul, why don´t you try with a magic eraser? I have had good results with it. I have not had lasting results with the clorine solution.

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    I've also had decent results with the Magic Eraser product on stamped logos (Dave or DMCMTK told me about this).
    I have also pretty much abandoned the oxy-clean soak, using it in only the most heavily oxidized examples.

    Al

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    Magic eraser lightly wetted will work wonders for you. Then a coating of obsidian oil once the stem is clean.

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  18. paulie66scandinavian

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    Next Time I will give a magic eraser a try,with moderately oxidized stems, but this time around this very stem had very stubborn like oxidation and dirt build up, M Earser worked but not that effectively I was expecting,

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    I won't use sandpaper anymore. I remove oxidation with a lighter and wet paper towel then thumb buff to a mirror finish with toothpaste.

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  20. paulie66scandinavian

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    @Embers,That sound like a interesting procedure,if You don't mind,could you please briefly clarify how You are proceeding with this 'unconventional' method?

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    Embers, thanks for sharing that! I will use that technique on my next stem cleaning. That will be a huge time saver.

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  23. paulie66scandinavian

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    Thanks Embers,

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