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As I was rebuilding the old family homestead this summer, I spent a little time researching vent systems used by cigar/pipe shops. Yeh, I was that guy asking questions in ever shop I visited. Some places, were full of guys smoking cigars, with absolutely no smoke in the room, no odors, and fresh air to breath while enjoying my stogies. Some... Not so much. But, it seems that the best vented places, used an inline vent system, with high cfm rating, which is the cubic feet per minute the fan will cycle air out of a room. My wife, bless her heart, doesn't mind me smoking and has only on rare occasions asked me to go outside to smoke. She hates tobacco smoke, so I never push my limits. Cigars have always been outside toys, but my pipes, I just smoke what we compromise with on, which is aromatics and Virginias and VaPer being what I will smoke in commons areas. And, latakias and burleys smoked in my pipe room. (My pipe room is a huge project which I will post as soon as I finish this summer)
So, an inline system, and how to do it on the cheap.

Rheostat $14

Wires and such $12

Plug and case $14

16' 8" duct $20

10" x 10" vent cover $6

10" x 10" register intake box $12

Inline vent fan rated at 900cfm with the rights rating for a rheostat $250
Tools

Drill with screw driver bit

Jig saw or drywall handsaw

Electric cord

Clamp on lamp

Hand screwdriver
Cut your 10"x 10 hole in your ceiling, drop the register box in, screw the vent cover on form the room side.

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Put your duct in with the clamps that come with it, and then drag the duct through your rafters.

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Install your inline vent, and I highly recommend that you put it on a heavy board or thick plywood to dampen the sound of the motor a little. Installing it directly into the ceiling turns your whole house into the Star Trek Enterprise with that strang background noise, like being on a ship. I will also finish running ducts to a vent that I will cut into the outside wall, but I will wait till it's not raining or cold to finish that part, because I have to get on the damned 20' ladder to do that.

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The rheostat and wiring to the plug was a little more involved. Our city inspector is a friend of mine, so he helped me make sure that I was in code. Cost me two Madura wrapped GTOs.

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The hardest part was just getting a list of what I would need and knowing what it is called. 8" duct parts are not carried by Home Depot, but that turned out to be a good thing, because Google shopping got me the parts much cheaper. 8" is commercial scale, so you have to go to specialized sites to buy. Google will help you with this.
I have two of these, one over my side of the couch with my movie pipe stuff, and the other is in my pipe room. I can easily adjust the fan to make it comfortable for one smoker, or a room full. It makes no noise, and you wouldn't know if someone was smoking even if they were setting right next to you.
A must for a married pipe smoker to make the wife and kids extra happy. And, there now won't be any exudes why the guys can't come over and play cards while smoking pipes or cigars.

Win/win
It was really easy and only took about four hours, two two hours a day. Minus the cigars with my inspector help. Any questions? :puffy:

 

gtclark

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 3, 2013
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That's awesome! Did you already have wiring in the attic, or did you have to install that as well?

 

voorhees

Lifer
May 30, 2012
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I have thought of installing a bathroom fan in my den. I have a free outlet in the attic, so I think your idea is better. Maybe I'll do it this spring.

 

gtclark

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 3, 2013
512
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I'm a dum-dum when it comes to electricity - a cigar-smoking inspector sounds like an essential component of the project!

 
I thought about going over the electrical part, but dofferent areas have different codes, different electrical boxes. It was very easy, and I did check with a local guy who said he'd do it to code for $65. But, he assured me that it was easy, and it was. I just had the inspector over, because he had to come by anyway to pick up some produce for his reseraunt. I just dragged him into it because he was so easy to drag. And, I have an unusual fear of killing myself when it comes to wires.

 

dread

Lifer
Jun 19, 2013
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1. Hi there Cosmic. Long story that includes an ER trip, but I'm puffing again.

2. Awesome! I have thought about how to do this for a long time.

3. What is the relationship between room size and cfm of the fan? Where does the vent air come in, through the door/rest of the house?
Thanks - really cool setup.

 
Thanks!

No house is completely air tight, so yeh, it is drawn from the usual places, walls, windows, doorways, etc. Originally I was going to go with a 1200cfm fan motor, but it wouldn't handle the rheostat. I did call the company that had the inline motor and discuss which one was best for the job.

The largest room is approximately 16000cubic feet. So, 900cfms will evacuate the room about 3+times an hour, pending my sorry math skills. But, even in the smaller rooms, I will most likely never turn the fan to full blast, except maybe on a poker night. So, it is overkill, but even on a low setting on the rheostat it has the power to really pull the smoke out.

 
Oh Vorhees, bathroom vent fans are loud and they don't have the best design to draw the air out, as it has been explained to me. An inline fan creates a much larger draw, because the fan takes up the full diameter of the ducting, whereas a bathroom fan is a box with a round fan in it. Mine, I Cannot hear anything except a faint hum, which isn't nearly as loud at the washer or drier when they are on. Bathroom vents will rattle your brain. Let me know if you need help.

 

jkrug

Lifer
Jan 23, 2015
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That's a great set up. Eventually when one of the kids move out and I commandeer their for my own little space I'd like to go with a setup like that. Well done. :puffy:

 

echie

Can't Leave
Jul 7, 2014
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Thanks for the write-up, Cosmic! I've saved the reference for when I have some space to build a pipe smoking room :)

 
You might also keep it in mind for the common rooms. My actual pipe room, I did it just because I was already going to be working in the attic, but the smoke wasn't that big a deal in there. I have an air filter already running in there, which I will probably get rid of now.

But, in having one in the common room, you could set next to your wife and smoke without her even smelling it. Last night was the test run. I turned it on half way, and then we watched an old Betty Davis flick while I enjoyed some GLP Odyssey on the couch next to her. I kept asking her if she could smell it, and each time I just got a shake and a smile. I like smiles. :puffy: Now there will be no limits on what I can smoke on movie nights, WIN WIN.
It might make a great way to spend more time around the family, without having to relegate your pipes to solitary confinement.

But of course my wife knew she was marrying a pipe smoker and didn't mind. But, it was a sort of Valentines Day gift to her, to show her that I am considerate. Wasn't that nice of me, ha ha. ...romantic even.

 

aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
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@Cosmic- not only are bathroom fans noisy to begin with, they aren't very well balanced, which only adds to the racket. I had to buy square, 3/8" self-adhesive foam to dampen the noise from the metal intake grille for one of mine. I have no idea how the previous owners lived with it, unless they just didn't use that bathroom.
Interesting project; I'm glad you posted it. It's probably the route I'll go when my oldest ships off to college this year and frees up a bedroom. I've already got the green light from the wife to convert it into a pipe-friendly office/den. (You know how sometimes kids move out, then back in, and out, and back in? I'm not that that guy, and fortunately, neither is the wife!)

 
Yeh, I have a daughter moving back in, while she switches colleges. Uggg, bittersweet. I will love having her close again, but... I really get tired of the sister drama this will awaken.
Yeh, my next project will be to replace the bathroom (poot remover) exhaust fan with an inline as well. Heck, why not. In the Spring and Fall, it will be nice to just leave the doors open to the screen door and turn the house fans on to keep it cool.

 

xrundog

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Oct 23, 2014
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I have a small room in my basement with a 110 CFM Panasonic Whisper Quiet bathroom fan rigged. Sure I can hear it run. But it's quieter than the cheaper models and I'm not talking to anybody anyway. I had an existing pass through vent in the wall already so I just had to find the quietest thing to fit. I like your setup better for a regular house room.
I'm posting to tell you about something to watch for. I've noticed that over time, the smoke causes a sticky residue to accumulate on the fan blades. This attracts dust which can accumulate enough to slightly unbalance the blades and create extra noise. Probably cause the shaft bearings to fail eventually to. I clean everything up at the end of the indoor smoking season.

After you've run the fan for some time, check the blades out.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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Cosmic, that is a great system for removing smoke, however it does nothing for the smell. For that you will need an ozinator. Forget the crap about them being dangerous. You run the thing after you are done smoking without you being in the room. I spent 15 years removing smoke and getting the smell out of my pool hall. I had 4 1500 CFM machines for removing smoke and a commercial grade ozinator that worked really well. Commerial grade units start around 300.00. I have no idea if the cheap units work.

 

voorhees

Lifer
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That's what I thought Michael. Bathroom fans are a bit loud. I'm really trying to figure out placement. My smoking den is close to the HVAC return in the hall ceiling. Actually just outside the door, so I'm concerned the HVAC system vent will over take a inline vent system. Even at the furthest point they'd still be 10-12 feet apart.

I also use a ceiling fan and wonder how this would work in tandem.
Your thoughts?

 
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