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An Article On Semois

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  1. workman

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    Great article. Thanks for sharing. I just ordered a brick of all three of them.

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    Yes, I believe that was that article that made this previously unknown variety of tobacco known to the forums, and after a year or more of constant pestering, we finally got the importers to start bringing it into the US.

    Michael
    Posted 4 months ago #
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    I think this is the very article that introduced Semois to the outside world, saving Semois from going completely extinct. The Americans are in someway saving our heritage: first they saved the demise of our Gueuze/lambic beers which became hugely unpopular and was doomed to fade out(All beers in Belgium used to be locally brewed sour ales until the 60ies when the pilsner took over) and now they are saving our Semois tobacco. Now please, save our Wervik tobacco as well!

    Posted 4 months ago #
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    I have never read it before. That is a great article, thanks for sharing.

    Javan
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    That was a good read. Thanks for sharing.

    “I've been treating you with courtesy and respect because that's the way I choose to treat everyone. But never, ever mistake kindness with weakness.”
    ― Louise Penny, Still Life
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    Nice read, I’ve not seen it before, I’ve been enjoying Tobac Manil for a couple of years now, I’ve got one jar of Cordemey left and wishing I could get more, I think it has deeper flavors than the Manil.

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    Great read, thanks for posting! Semois is on my “must try” list.

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    Nice read, thanks for sharing!

    Pierre
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    Thanks for posting; very interesting article. I too have added this to my 'must try' list.

    Started to read through the comments; some of the anti-smokers weren't pulling punches and some came across as borderline delusional.

    Now please, save our Wervik tobacco as well!
    What is Wervik tobacco?

    Posted 4 months ago #
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    Interesting read, thanks for posting!

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    Great read. It definitely got me wanting to try some

    The comments attached were also very interesting and entertaining to read. The tobacco Nazis were out in force

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    Now please, save our Wervik tobacco as well!
    What is Wervik tobacco?

    Another tobacco region in Belgium. I wrote a little about it in my Semois blog: https://dutchpipesmoker.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/sunny-semois/

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    jaygreen, did you notice Kevin's comment on that article also?

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    That's a classic piece for sure. Like many guys here, I remember reading that article a while back. I did the TAD thing and ordered all blends of Semois right away. I still pick at it a few times a year. It's a good change of pace.

    Neal
    Posted 4 months ago #
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    Wervik is a town in Flanders, Belgium. They mainly grow burleys but also 'Semois' (the cultivar). I believe some of the Semois from Wervik is even used in some of the Semois tobaccos in the Walloon part. There are only a very few farmers left, since the government stopped any funding which means that right now we witness the last generation ever to commercially farm tobacco in Flanders. I have only seen their tobacco being available in the local market, so I doubt it is possible to find it online.... but so was Semois until a few years ago. Hopefully, they will also have a resurgence of interest.

    Here is a little video of one of the growers:

    https://www.focus-wtv.be/nieuws/tabaksoogst-ziet-er-veelbelovend-uit

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    Small correction: I believe I was wrong in assuming Wervik Semois is used in the Walloonian Semois, I should have said that it is used in the more generic named 'Semois' tobacco brands.

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    in addition to Tabac J Manile then there is at least two more Tabac de Semois growers operating in Belgium,particularly JP Couvert(tabacsemois.com) and J Martin(maisonmartin.be)

    Paul The Scandinavian'
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    I tead this one a few years ago, but am glad you shared it. It’s one of the finest articles on pipe tobacco andsmoking that I’ve ever read. I have only tried one of the three blends from Tabac Manil and rather enjoy it on occasion. It’s extremely dry by design, so it requires a very tight pack.

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    Yes! I remember reading that with the forlorn sense that I would never get a chance to try it, much less have it in my "cellar." Then a member was clever enough to buy some and kind enough to send me a sample. I really thought it might not be so great, since I had actually scored a baggie. I was completely wrong. It was just my thing, and still is. Another member sent me a nearly full package, since he strongly disliked it, and sent along with it a beautiful English pipe and a full tin of Frog Morton Cellar. Needless to say, it was a moment in my pipe smoking life. Great article indeed.

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    Tabac Manil semois is readily available from online vendors. I find it to be a finicky smoke but, as @npod says, a nice change on occasion. What interests me is that this article was published in 2013. I wonder whether the NY Times would publish an article like this today. I fear not.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    We were well into the anti-smoking age when the article first appeared. I think it was exotic enough, and seemed remote enough, that the NYT felt insulated from the health crusaders. I sure never expected to get a taste of it. But the article was well-written, and there is enough of a market for pipe tobacco, that one thing led to another. I assumed I'd have to travel there and might have a hard time tracking it down anyway. Likely, the editors thought so too.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    I'd read the article previously. I've smoked a couple of the Tabac Manil versions and really enjoy them. I'd like to try some of the other Belgiuim tobaccos mentioned above.

    "You are remembered for the rules you break." - General Douglas MacArthur
    Posted 3 months ago #
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    Next time I am in Belgium on a Thursday for the local market (that might take a few months though), I will try to get a hold of some Belgian tobaccos and perhaps distribute some samples here on the forum if there is any interest.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    @Bazungu,ca c'est Une ideé merveille.

    Posted 3 months ago #

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