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Alcohol & Salt treatments "Don'ts"

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  1. eaglerico

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    Okay so I figured out today what not to do when restoring estate pipes. I got a few new pipes in a trade a while back and decided I was going to do a Alcohol & Salt treatment. Well, I didn't have anything better to do that day so I sat there with it next to my computer and every so often as alcohol either was absorbed or evaporated I added more with a dropper. I did this for several hours, I really wanted them good and clean.

    My wife eventually came home and I got side tracked. Then life got busy and it wasn't until today when I got home from work early that I had time to go back and finish cleaning them. They have been sitting with the salt in them for about 3 weeks now. Now on a normal restoration when I come back no later then the next morning there is usually some crust on the top easily broken. This time, the damn salt had hardened half way down the bowl. A very deep bowl.

    I did this on two pipes. I had to sit there very gently yet forcefully drilling into the salt. You never realized just how much salt a pipe can hold until you have to removed each grain individually. Alas, I did get all the salt out but it took be a good 2 hours to get it completely out of both pipes.

    The only lucky part about it was I had just recently ordered some wire shank brushes. If I would not have had them, I would not have been able to get the salt out of the shank. As both pipe were long Canadians. Normal pipe cleaners just crumpled in my finger tips.

    Lesson learned...but they came out very clean.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  2. markw4mms

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    Glad you were able to salvage those two pipes. I bet you never let that happen to you again.

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    Posted 6 months ago #
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    OK, I will sub in for Lawrence: THIS THREAD IS USELESS WITHOUT PICTURES. hehehehe

    I would like to see them.

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  4. cyndi

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    What kind of salt were you using? Shaun is adamant about only using non-iodized rock salt. Lately though, he's just been using cotton balls and Everclear.

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  5. spartan

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    L to the O to the L. Take that for ignoring your pipes! haha

    Glad you could save em. I'll take your advice and NOT do that. I'd most likely just do the cotton balls first and if that didn't work THEN I would take the salt route.

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  6. portascat

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    I have done cotton balls and salt, both with everclear.

    Prefer the salt.

    Why?

    Because I have had occasion with both to have a hidden piece remain in the pipe.

    Salt smoke a lot better than cotton.

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  7. bootlegbonvivant

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    Lol, I agree to that, Portascat!

    If the pipe is lightly smoked, I'll use the cotton ball method. If it's been more heavily smoked, then the salt is introduced. Then if I have a pipe that has a cake that almost fills the bowl, I do a complete retort restoration. Even with the more heavily smoked pipes, I may go ahead with the retort just because some of the weird smells in the pipe.

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    Posted 6 months ago #
  8. macnutz

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    I was lucky. The only time I did the salt and alcohol thing, I left it in for three days, just out of ignorance. It popped out like a little rock cylinder, a perfect cast of the inside of the bowl.

    Never did light it up as it was immediately stolen from a jacket pocket at a party, before I ever bought tobacco. Delayed starting the pipe for over a year. It certainly looked clean and pretty inside the bowl.

    Posted 6 months ago #
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    I got these in a trade with marmal4de a while back. These are the pics he sent me.

    This one has a cool tree bark texture and I really like the bit. This one is significantly larger then the second one below. The shank held a lot of salt. I spent the most amount of time trying to dig it out of this shank. Can't really tell what brand of pipe it is.

    This one has a golden brown birds eye mixed with smoke like veins of black. It really is something to look at.. Has a stamp that says "The Albany Pipe," "Made in England" and has the number 29 stamped on the bottom. Any one ever heard of an Albany Pipe?

    Posted 6 months ago #
  10. olderthandirt

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    Of course it's after the fact now but wouldn't adding more alcohol to the dried salt have loosened it back up again?

    Regardless, after that warning of what can happen I'll be sticking with the cotton balls myself (-:

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    Posted 6 months ago #
  11. eaglerico

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    Yes OTD I did eventually use a little alcohol to remove the last bits inside the shank as they were to hard to get out other wise. But, by adding alcohol after the fact could bring some of the gunk I pulled out of the pipe back in. Kind of defeats the purpose. In my opinion.

    @cyndi

    I use non-iodized table salt. I like the smaller grains to be able to get all the way down the shank.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  12. bootlegbonvivant

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    I would suggest getting some sea salt. You can grind some of it up to make the smaller grains for the shank area.

    I think there are some downsides to table salt, but I can't remember what they are.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  13. wallbright

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    So you guys salt the shank as well? I had always heard not to get any salt in the shank but maybe I heard wrong.

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    I use sea salt, but never let them sit more than overnight. I do try to get some in the shanks and can see where cleaning a lovat or Canadian you might want to get the treatment pretty far up the shank.

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    Wallbright, I've always put salt in the shank. The bowl isn't where all the crud actually is. The shank is where all that tobacco moisture sets and why a pipe tastes funky after a time of no cleaning. The alcohol will pull a lot back into the bowl, but I see it as if there's more absorbing agent there, then it should pull out more. I haven't had any issues doing it this way, either.

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  16. eaglerico

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    Yes. I did it a few times without doing the shank and could still taste seomthing "off" on these Canadians especially, I wanted to get everything out of the shanks. I used a wadded up pipe cleaner to plug the shank and I have a flower pot full of fine sand that i use to prop the pipes. I ended up have to scoop some of the sand out and throw it away as so much gunk came out of the shank.

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  17. deleon

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    I use kosher salt & everclear on my pipes. Kosher salt doesn't have any iodine. I've heard that's a big plus not sure why. If I don't have everclear, I head over to the pharmacy and pick up a hug bottle of isopropyl alcohol 99 for a few bucks and that does the job also.

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    hi all , new here just a couple days. been smokin pipe for 15 yrs now just recently threw the cigs away totally( bout a yr ago) anyway, other day i found an old brigham mountianeer(3 pin) at an antique store. I just had to have it as its in super condition,(needs nothin) anyway i cleaned it up, but it gives tounge bite not related to tobaco bite and also an afterburn on my lips. any ideas what i done wrong?? could sure use some suggestions.

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  19. hauntedmyst

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    ns,

    How is the draw? You may need to open it up a bit if the tongue bit isn't related to tobacco.

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    Welcome to the bords nsfisher; before Hobie asks, we need some pics of both fish and the Maritimes! Only place in this country that gives BC a run for its money when it comes to amazing scenery I say.

    As for your Brig, what did you clean it with? It sounds like a chemical reaction to me.

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    the draw is terrific its about a 60 yr old brigham (i think the age is bout right) alum shank an so on. i cleaned with alohol, then brandy, but no luck so far. by the way nice to meet u both an thanks for the reply

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    I always use cotton balls now and haven't noticed any difference from when I used salt. Why risk ruining the bowl?

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    juni,

    Salt wont ruin the bowl. Any bowl that gets ruined by the salt treatment most likely has a flaw anyway or wasn't cleaned properly after the treatment. Salt ruining pipes is one of those internet myths that just keeps floating around without merit.

    ns, is the aluminum shank removable like a filter or is it permanent? I can't figure whats making it give tongue bite. The only thing I can think of try is to get a set of needle files and flare the bit internally so it spreads out through your mouth rather than streaming. Did you strip the stem down on the outside and then rebuff it? They could have cleaned it with some chemical that is causing the stinging.

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    I have split the shanks on more than one occasion using the salt method. Grains of salt remained inside and when I put the stem back onto the pipe the shank split. Now if I use salt, it only goes in the bowl. I put a pipe cleaner into the pipe before adding the salt and alcohol, the cleaner acts as a wick for the alcohol and does a good job of cleaning shank and stem. I very seldom use salt, I now chose to use the cotton ball method. If that isn't sufficient enough, I then use the retort.

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    You have to clean them well when the process is done. I've done the process nearly 100 times and never split a shank.

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    I smoke the same tabacco in the same pipe or at least natural-aromatic-english mix in the same pipe always.Don't think the alchol/salt treatment it's a good thing but simply a metropolitan legend.I clean the bowl with paper every time i smoke and i get pipes reamed. Only shank and stem needs over a couple of smokes to be cleaned with alchol.I think briar like to have contact with tobacco nothing else.But of course everybody do what he likes

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    You have to clean them well when the process is done. I've done the process nearly 100 times and never split a shank.

    I thought I had cleaned it well, it takes just one little grain of salt to cause a major catastrophe!!

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    thanks for reply hauntedmyst, i actually soaked it in table salt water and alcohol water mixture last nite for about 2 hours then cleaned an rubbed it well with cotton swabs and scraped the bowl and shank. now its great lol no bite and no afterburn so i think problem is solved. I also bought a new brigham voyager today and i think i am in love, hahaha no more medico's for me. so far the brighams have changed my preference. but i will continue to look for and collect estate pipes.

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    one thing i like to do in order to clean the shanks of my pipes is this. take a paper towel and cut it into 4 squares. now take a square and twist a conner of towel, continue twisting until the towel has formed a point on the end. now with a dropper, put some everclear on the paper towel. insert the pointed end of the paper towel in to the shank and airhole, start twisting and pushing the paper towel into the shank until it will go no further into the shank keep twisting for a minute or so. you can let it sit for while then pull the paper towel from the shank. it should be gunked up. repeat this until the towel comes out clean. it is easy to do, and does not require salt. good luck...... this really works well on the shanks. do not insert stem until all the alcohol has evaporated.

    mike lyvers.

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    Nice pipes. I really like the look of the first one. I've been thinking of getting a canadian for some time. Glad you were able to save them.

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    I've snapped a balloon over the stem and filled the bowl with alcohol (put cotton ball in bowl to prevent splashing), letting it trickle into the balloon (water balloon size). Then you can carfullly squeeze the balloon and flush-out the shank, like a fuel line pump on an outboard motor.....
    When finished, just pull the balloon off, tie a knot in it, and toss it in the bonfire.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    sometimes i wrap bowl in saran wrap and put elastic over saran wrap on shank so no leakage. hold palm tight over saran wrapped bowl and shake it like hell. sloshing alochol loosens up gunk and pour her out, re rinse then swab and ur good to go

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    Another no no. I was desperate one afternoon to clean one of my trusties and could get my hands on any alcohol, so i grabbed the hand sanitizer...bad idea. now every time old trusty is smoked I taste the other stuff the sanitizer left behind. I think I am going to dunk in alcocal and refinish.

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    Rather than salt and alcohol, use baking soda. Take the baking soda and pack it tight in the bowl. Add a few drops of dish washing liquid and let soak in. The pour vinegar into the bowl and let it sit. Your bowl will be spotless.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    You're evil, hauntedmyst! It did make my billiard into a volcano, though!

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    Lol I was waiting to see if some one would try. Basic chemestry 101. Lol.

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    I add the Everclear with a pet syringe (we had an old dog, plenty of those scattered about the house). That way I can put in a precise amount (1/8" - 1/4" below the bowl top is usually my fill mark) No drips or spills on the bowl top/sides this way.

    Posted 3 months ago #

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