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escioe

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Oct 31, 2013
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I'm a devotee of the GL Pease range, and I wanted to get everyone's experiences with aging the tobaccos in the Classic Collection.
The two that I have lots of experience with are Kensington and Blackpoint. Years back when I lived in Chicago I found a few tins of Kensington from 2003 on the shelves at Iwan Ries. It was good enough to get me to buy an old 2003 bag of Kensington from pipestud, which I broke up into 2 oz portions and jarred. I've smoked one every once in a while and it's only gotten deeper and more seamless. I'm down to my last jar of that 2003 bag, but I've got tins from 2007 and 2010 that I'm looking forward to.
In the last six months I've had two tins of 2007 Blackpoint and it's great. The coloring on this one in particular has gotten much darker, with those bright Virginias that are there fresh turning mahogany. I'm not the biggest fan of bright Virginias in general as I prefer the deeper flavors of reds, but they've faded a bit here into this really well-melded slurry of flavors. When I smoke this, it's what I imagine really old Balkan Sobranie 759 must taste like, though I have no real reference for that. There is a good deal of latakia here, but it's mixed in evenly with the other parts of the blend. The perique here is just enough make me sneeze once or twice when I smoke it, and adds a little bit strength to the blend.
I've had one tin of old Stratford, but that was a long time ago. I've got one left that I'm looking forward to.
I've never had old Abingdon, Charing Cross, or Piccadilly. Greg Pease loves old PIccadilly but Chelsea Morning has always filled that spot for me. I know there are lots of fans of Abingdon and Charing Cross on here, but do any of you have much experience aging them? I imagine they might develop a little slower than the others because of the high latakia content, but maybe some of you have some experience with that.

 

rmbittner

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Dec 12, 2012
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How old is "old"? I've got tins of both Abingdon and Charing Cross from 2006. I'd be happy to pop them in the coming weeks and report back.
Bob

 

northernneil

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Jun 1, 2013
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I'm well past my second year with a pipe, so have not been at it long enough to experience any Pease blends with significant age to it. I have been able to aquire some aged McClelland Blends, but for one reason or another, Pease blends always seem to come pretty fresh from the manufacturer/retailer.

That being said, I have a solid little stash of Pease Blends in the cellar. I am basically buying 2 of each tin that catches my fancy. I try to smoke one fresh, and leave the other for aging. If I fall in love with a blend after the first tin, I will buy more to put away for long term aging.

One thing that can be said for Pease blends, they are easily available fresh, unfortunately, the same is not true for aged.

 

May 31, 2012
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Not from the classic collection,

but I have an 07 Westminster

and

an 02 Cumberland
..the Cumberland will be opened this summer, it's the old skinny tin so I hope it's in good order, I will report my experience with it.
Many thanks for your report!

Interesting to read.

 

pitchfork

Lifer
May 25, 2012
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I haven't opened them yet, but I have some Samarra and Caravan that are at least 10 years old.
The 2002 or 2003 Cumberland is truly one of my favorite tobaccos. I don't know if it's the age or the way it was made in the early years, but the fresh stuff doesn't compare (at least not yet).

 

pitchfork

Lifer
May 25, 2012
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I also have a 2005 tin of Abingdon. Looking forward to trying it at some point as I really enjoyed the fresh tin I have.
Also, the Caravan is from 2001 and the Samarra is from 2000, so there's plenty of age on them.

 

escioe

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 31, 2013
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How old is "old"? I've got tins of both Abingdon and Charing Cross from 2006. I'd be happy to pop them in the coming weeks and report back.
Bob
I'll expect a full report by Mayday, sir.

 

rmbittner

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Challenge accepted! :)
I will say at the outset, though, that I never note anything about a blend's coloring in my notes -- and I rarely comment on appearance/cut at all, unless it's something unusual or something I have to figure out when it comes to packing. Of course, I'll be able to comment on those things with the aged blends that I'll be opening. But I won't be able to tell you how they compare in appearance to their fresh selves circa 2006/2007.
Bob

 

rmbittner

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escioe:
No. . . Actually, I completely forgot about this thread! I've got a lot of other tins going at the moment. But once I finish the Bombay Court I'm working on -- which should be this week -- I'll open the Abingdon (going in alphabetical order) and report back.
And just to be sure I don't forget, I'm moving this one from my cellar to my "next to smoke" drawer today. :)
Bob

 

rmbittner

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Dec 12, 2012
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Quick update:
I just opened a 2006 tin of Abingdon. I'm going to smoke at least three bowls in the same pipe before reporting back, but I should be able to post my impressions by the end of the day today, along with my original TR.com review from 2010 of a fresh tin of Abingdon.
Bob

 

saltedplug

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Aug 20, 2013
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In general I like aged tobacco, and the marrying of flavors and a more subdued and the different, more savory taste of aged tobacco has always been to my liking. I don't have experience with aging latakia blends such as those in the Classic Collection, but my experience with VA-based blends tells me that I would like them aged, as well.

 

rmbittner

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Here's my "aged Abingdon" report:
First, here's what I said on TR.com in 2010 regarding a fresh tin:
"Despite the tin's description -- a "big Balkan blend" -- this is what I would consider a very good medium-weight Balkan. To my mind, no one currently does Balkans of such variety or finesse as GLPease, and this one fits perfectly in that range. It is similar in approach to Ashbury and Charing Cross. However, in those blends, the orientals are more acrid and more forward in the blend; Abingdon pushes them back a bit, making this a blend that is more evenly balanced among the Virginias, orientals, and latakia. If Ashbury and Charing Cross are a bit too sharp for you, Abingdon may be just what you're looking for.
"I should say, though, that all of these blends are a touch lighter and more focused on the acrid-oriental side of the Balkan spectrum than, say, Caravan or Odyssey, which feature a stronger latakia presence and slightly sweeter orientals. (If you're new to GLP blends, Odyssey is the "biggest" of the Balkans currently on offer.)"
As for my 2006 tin of Abgindon, opened on 5/12/24. . .
The tin had begun to puff up slightly, but of course the seal was perfectly intact. And it hadn't puffed to the point where it didn't sit level on a flat surface. Slight puff of air on cracking the top. . . and virtually no tin aroma whatsoever. After a day in a jar, the only aroma is from Virginias and, perhaps, the orientals. But from the unlit aroma alone, I think a lot of smokers would assume this was a straight -- or primarily -- Virginia blend.
That perception changes the minute you light the bowl: Delicious orientals are the first thing you notice, and they dominate throughout the bowl. The Virginia is there too, but it never comes to the foreground. And the latakia? Well, it has mellowed remarkably -- perhaps to the point where you could smoke this and not really think there's much latakia -- if any -- in this blend.
So, in my experience, the "balance" this exhibited when fresh has shifted strongly toward the oriental side of the blend after eight years. It is more mellow than I remember it being when "new," but the VAs and latakia have become almost condimental. Also, it remains a "dry" smoke -- as opposed to sweet -- despite the Virginias in the blend.
Which leads me to wonder if this still truly qualifies as a Balkan, as I define it: A blend where the latakia and orientals are in the foreground, and the Virginia is a very quiet background element. Because the latakia has mellowed so much, it really isn't holding its own with the orientals anymore. For me, this has become a rich oriental blend.
It is quite delicious, and I think it would reward extended cellaring. Yes, the latakia is moving more and more into the background as it ages, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. And the overall blend certainly doesn't feel like it's peaked, by any means. Assuming you're not looking for a latakia-dominant blend, I think this should continue to mature nicely for many more years. It'll be interesting to revisit this at the 15-year/20-year marks.
Bob

 

escioe

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Oct 31, 2013
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Thanks, Bob!
I find your take on these blends aging really interesting. You've mentioned in the past that the latakia in Odyssey doesn't really fall off, but here, in Abingdon, it does. It has to be the same leaf, doesn't it? So that would point to other, weird, magical things happening in these tins, like components breaking down at different rates based on what's around it.
Hard to imagine Abingdon smelling like a Virginia, given the contents. I've got an open tin of Laurel Heights from 2007, and I can smell the 2% latakia in it for sure. But I'm thinking that this stuff is lots more complex that any of us would guess.

 

spilproof

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I bought 3 tins of GLP in 2010. Abingdon, Quiet Nights, and Westminster. I just recently picked up the pipe again after a few years of hiatus. I opened the Quiet Nights a few weeks ago, and I love it. Just can't get enough and need to order much more. I opened the abingdon, and was completely disappointed. It looks like floor sweepings and is not a very satisfying smoke. Just thin and boring. I still have the westminster, but I have vowed to finish one. or more, of my 11 tobaccos currently opened before popping it.
I really gravitate to the darker flake tobaccos, so maybe thats why I am not happy with my aged Abingdon.

 

escioe

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 31, 2013
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Just finished a two hour bowl of 7 year old Stratford. Wow. I remember liking this blend a bit, and I'm not sure if it was just the old Comoy billiard I was smoking it out of or what, but this was incredible. This is going to pry me away from chainsmoking Stonehaven for a while.

 

dirtydex

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@escioe I just cracked a tin of 2004 Charing Cross and I consider it one of the finest smokes I've ever had. Shoot me a PM and I'll send you a sample.

 
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