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4th Generation Small Batch Aged VA

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  1. dcon

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    Is anybody else looking forward to this? It is supposed to be released in late July- early August. It is described as light and dark Virginias chosen from 10 year old leaf. It is produced by SG for Stokkebye, has a broken/ribbon cut, no toppings or condimental leaf. I think this might be a hot property.

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    I am now.

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    Color me intrigued.

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    I'll await Mr. Inks assessment.

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    I've got some C&D small batch, not bad. But I am more of a "Latakia" guy.

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    I’m sure it will be sold out fast. The last version was. At $35 you were paying for the really cool mini humidor box

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    Here is SP 1st tasting notes and interview with Erik Stokkebye. I will pickup 1 tin to try.

    https://www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/tasting-notes-4th-generation-small-batch-aged-virginia

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    I’m sure it will be sold out fast. The last version was. At $35 you were paying for the really cool mini humidor box

    Yup, and for that price you could get a 250g box of FVF or BBF.

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    Where can you find it? I really enjoyed last year's blend.

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    A video on SP with Erik Stokkebye said that the release would be in late July or early August.

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    Eh $35 is way cheaper than I thought they’d be selling it for. I think that’s a damn good price considering the awesome presentation, the collaboration between Gawith & Stokkebye and oh yeah, the 10 YEAR OLD VIRGINIAS! Count me in... I mean if I can get to them before they sell out, you know this stuff is going to go QUICK!

    Edit* I read the post wrong, does anyone know how much this will be going for per 100 grams?

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    While it may be a little pricey I'm still interested. Never had any 4th generation tobacco but this looks like one I'll have to give a try.

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    Now available at SPC and I got mine.

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    I ordered my five

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    Available at tobaccopipes.com

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    not vacuum sealed?

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    I ordered a tin from Cup O Joe's but they only had 3 tins and are now sold out.
    As for your question ben88 I don't believe they are vacuum sealed, last years version (which came in a similar looking wooden humidor) certainly wasn't.

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    I ordered a couple boxes from SPC. Still in stock.

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    SP had it for $21
    TobaccoPipes is $27

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    Ordered 2 about an hour ago when I got the notice from SP. Added both the new Amphoras and a few various VA flakes to get that free shipping

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    Got mine ordered from both SPC and Cupojoes. Excited for it's arrival!

    Also FYI for those who don't already know, SPC also has a sale going on, 15% off Savinelli pipes for silver members. There are still alot of Savinelli Spigot Sterling models (usually $300+ pipes) in both natural and bordeaux finishes that were already deeply discounted prior to the sale. The Additional discount puts the naturals at $140 and the bordeauxs at $115. These pipes are excellent smokers (I own two in the 315KS) and are an absolute steal at this price range.

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    I'm sure it will be a good tobacco (I'm going to be finding out), but is the box really necessary...?

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    Reviewers of last years version mentioned the box imparted a cedar flavour that I'm guessing will get more pronounced with time but whether it's necessary is another question. I have one in the cellar and before I sealed it in a mylar bag I took a look and the box/humidor was very solid and well constructed and definitely made made me feel I had something special in my hands.
    Incidentally last years had a Boveda pack inside but it doesn't look like they bothered this time, not that it really matters of course.

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    Just threw a box of this into an order from SP. I probably would have ordered more if it was vacuum sealed and I could store it in the original packaging. I'm excited to try it but don't think I'll be ordering anymore because of the price tag and the need to jar it once it arrives.

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    I ordered a couple of boxes

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    Had to order me up a few boxes. Glad I caught it.

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    But like all your friends it is vilified
    They always say, the right amount's fine
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    10 year old SG Virginia? Count me in for $21.00

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    Got 5 from Watch City, $20 and change. Free shipping on that amount and no state sales tax charged.

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    Bought a few, will seal them up in mylar and put them back in the box

    "It is quite a three pipe problem..."
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    Ordinarily this would sound like a promising blend but seriously, what is the point of that packaging?? Nothing shouts "gimmick" louder than overly fussy packaging that doubles as a knick-knack to put on the mantle.

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    Aged VA from Stokkebye and SG? Okay, but only if I have to. But I won't enjoy. Nope. Not even a little bit.

    Ordered a few just because somebody has to do it, but I just want to state for the record, I did it only under duress.

    Yup, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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    It's not bad at all...mine arrived today

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    Out of stock at SPC and Watch City. Tobaccopipes still has it.

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    Too bad they didn't do it in flake form.

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    No way I'm gonna pay $20+ for 50gr. of tobacco. Audacious! But as P.T. Barnum said...

    I find myself sitting idly on the line dividing past and future,
    as if I could kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau
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    I have some tins coming. Excited to try it. Watch City had the best price.

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    What is the chance of just vacuum sealing the whole box with the tobacco inside?

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    Still in stock at tobaccopipes

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    I vacuum seal my boxes of SG and never had an issue.

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    What is the chance of just vacuum sealing the whole box with the tobacco inside?

    I plan on sealing the whole box in Mylar bags. This is typically what I do for SG 250g boxes, works well.

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    I was thinking of sealing the tobacco in mylar, then placing back in the box. Im not sure if the intention is for the wood to impart flavor to the tobacco though.

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    I think the intention is to convince people to spend over $20 on 1.75 oz of tobacco. Marketing.

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    Last year I just sealed the whole box in a mylar bag because I wanted the cedar box to continue to impart its flavour and I plan on doing the same with this years version.

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    I think the intention is to convince people to spend over $20 on 1.75 oz of tobacco. Marketing.

    Well... they got me. I'm more interested in the 10 years age than the box.

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    I smoke cigars that have a strong cedar note to them and I very much like that. So I too went for these for that very purpose. The box I am sure inflated the cost but was the reason for my purchase.

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    Now I also realize I have cigar humidors lined in cedar but they are way to big.

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    Hoosier, cant argue that! Its worked on a number of us. Hopefully the leaf lives up the hype and price.

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    Passed on this one..

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    Passed on this one..

    Smart move. Nothing special here...you're paying for the box. If you want a good ribbon cut Virginia, blend yourself C&D Red and bright for $2 per ounce (bulk).

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    Too expensive for me as well.

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    They will make for a nice gift to a few friends. I can't imagine the tobacco itself is worth that price, at least relatively speaking.

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    If they had left it in flake form I would have tried it. Since they made it a ribbon cut I don't have any interest. I predict there will be a big sale on this stuff sometime down the road.

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    If they had left it in flake form I would have tried it.

    A farmer near my other house in NC that grows for American Spirit (mostly) and that I occasionally buy some whole leaf from told me one time that the lower quality leaves are usually ribbon cut; he told me the reason for that but I don't remember what that was and don't know if that's true or not. But again, for a good solid VA ribbon that isn't cased or topped, the C&D bulk (red and bright) are not top quality, but pretty darn good, and for a lot less than this stuff. Personally, my favorite red is Carolina Red Flake and my favorite red throughout the year is Interlude--both nice thick broken flakes.

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    I predict there will be a big sale on this stuff sometime down the road.

    Smoking Pipes OOS. CupoJoes OOS. Watch City OOS. Tobacco Pipes has some @$26. Mars and 4 Noggins yet to be heard from. One etailer I talked to said pre orders and orders at the Las Vegas trade show took all the distributor had, which they were saying was all there ever would be.

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    duplicate post

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    You guys in the US think you payed a lot for this but I've had to add on about £38 P&P PLUS customs and duties which will probably add about another £10-£12 to the price of this one tin/box.
    Now I did order some other new tobacco as well but overall this single box will probably work out costing me about £40, and that's for a tobacco that was made in my own country of England!
    It's all relative though as people in Australia & Canada spend about this amount on a regular tin of Peterson's or whatever and I really wanted to get one of these for my cellar which I'm desperately using any spare cash to build up before the inevitable Internet tobacco ban happens.

    Chris

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    Too expensive for me as well.

    Hey Jim have you tried this, just curious.

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    I shall pass. Let me know how it tastes and I’ll be enjoying something else much less expensive. The cellar beckons.

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    I was surprised at how cheap it was this year at $21, I paid $33 last year.....it was a flake though, but that was expensive!.

    Still, a few years back they had that $1,000 box on sale (100g from memory) and that sold out......(not sure which brand it was but some pipe clubs purchased a box to share at meetings).

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    The marketing is sufficiently attractive to new smokers like me.

    1. How else would new smokers get to 10 year aged tobacco at that price?
    2. The box is sufficiently attractive-My wife or I will definitely find a use for it.

    Off topic - I can state #2 with conviction due to the fate of my cigar humidor. When I discovered that the cigars I like are too expensive for regular smoking, and the ones I can afford daily, I don’t like - my humidor was empty for a few months. Then one day I suddenly realized it has converted to a make up box.

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    1. How else would new smokers get to 10 year aged tobacco at that price?

    Seems like a no brainer to me, but hey let the nay sayers prevail so the rest of us can get our fill.

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    How else would new smokers get to 10 year aged tobacco at that price?

    This was one of the main things that attracted me to this particular tobacco, I suppose if you've been smoking for 20 years or whatever and have 10 year+ Virginias that you've aged yourself then it probably doesn't seem such a big deal but I've only been smoking pipes for about 4 years and the oldest tobacco I've smoked is some 3yo Full Virginia Plug.
    I've definitely noticed a huge difference in that the aged plug is much much darker and it's a deeper more flavourful smoke so I'm hoping that with 5 years or so aging in the cellar a 15yo Samuel Gawith straight virginia will be mighty tasty.
    I am awaiting the first reviews of this blend with baited breath and fingers most definitely crossed.

    Chris

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    1. How else would new smokers get to 10 year aged tobacco at that price?

    Word.

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    I am no expert so ignore everything ---> but tasting lots of browns. Bready. Not sweet. Not sour. No ketchup. No bbq sauce. The cut is course. Burns slow. Straightforward and simple. Seems to do one thing, and do it very well.

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    but tasting lots of browns. Bready. Not sweet. Not sour. No ketchup. No bbq sauce. The cut is course. Burns slow. Straightforward and simple. Seems to do one thing, and do it very well.

    Folanator, would you say it's comparable to Full Virginia Flake in the taste/strength department or more like Best Brown Flake?
    I realise you've probably only had a couple of bowls and it can take a whole a tin to really get an idea of what you're smoking but I'd be interested to know your thoughts.
    Sadly as I only got one box and I'm gonna age it I probably won't find out myself for a good few years and that's if it actually arrives in one piece, at the moment my little box is in somewhere called Jamaica New York and then it's got to fly across the Atlantic then clear the black hole called British Customs.
    Still with a fair wind and a bit of luck it should be in my hot sweaty hands in about 10-14 days, fingers crossed.

    Chris

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    After 1 bowl I would say that it has closer to the strength of a FVF, but with some of the nuance of BBF. Towards the end I was getting some very background hints of spice, cinnamon along with cereal.

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    After 1 bowl I would say that it has closer to the strength of a FVF, but with some of the nuance of BBF. Towards the end I was getting some very background hints of spice, cinnamon along with cereal.

    Thanks for the info mate, that does sound right up my street as BBF/Kendal Plug & FVF/FVP are two of my absolute favourites so I look forward to trying it in a few years (if I can hold out that long), that's of course if it actually gets here unmolested. There's no reason it shouldn't but out of the 15 or so overseas orders I've done I did have one where the tins were squashed and some of the contents had come out (it looked like a bloody steam roller had done the business or something) but it wasn't too bad as it had only been in transit for a couple of days as it was from Germany so the tobacco wasn't that dried out and I just Mylar bagged the lot of it.
    Still the thought of the same sort of thing happening to that lovely wooden box would be a real shame (especially considering the amount of money it's costing me) so I really hope this particular shipment gets through intact.

    Chris

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    @smudgersmissingleg - I’m expecting the worst in terms of delay for mine in customs. Take between a day and a month to pop out - it’s a waiting game.

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    i’m expecting the worst in terms of delay for mine in customs. Take between a day and a month to pop out - it’s a waiting game.

    I've had about 7 or 8 tobacco orders from the USA in the last couple of years and I think it normally averages from between a week to 12 days so maybe I've been reasonably lucky.
    It probably depends on the time of year as well, I'd expect it to be much worse in the lead up to Christmas.
    Hopefully both our packages won't be lost in customs limbo hell for too long.

    Chris

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    Arrived in the mail. Now smoking this

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