1792 Flake - Mold?

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shortyeastcoast

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 28, 2013
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Hey folks, does this look like mold to you?
The tobacco has always smelled a bit like dirty old basement, but :lol: I wasn't sure if that was normal. This was my first tin of it.


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aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
4,407
42
I'm not experienced enough to be able to tell mold from bloom. I am experienced enough to know that torching mold spores of unknown species and sucking it into your body is not a winning bet. If it were me, I would either pitch it, or offer it to one of our forum members who can evaluate it and make the call. It's a win-win: if it's no good, you don't get sick/die. If it's OK, someone gets free tobacco.

 

brewshooter

Lifer
Jun 2, 2011
1,658
3
It looks okay to me. The fact that it's spread out over the entire surface is actually probably a good sign. If there was a spot of something grayish or greenish in one place I would be concerned. 1792 has a pretty intense smell. Personally, I would likely smoke that with no concern, but it's your call ultimately, since you're the one who will be smoking it.

 

mikestanley

Lifer
May 10, 2009
1,698
1,126
Akron area of Ohio
The picture you show, while not bloom, is not mold. Its very common on the Lakeland flkes. I cannot remember what the explanation given is but it isn't anything to worry about. A lot of the 1792 I have come across does smell like a dirt floor basement. Its the problem I have with some of the Lakeland flakes. When you get a good batch, its great stuff. When you don't (and I think the dirt floor basement smell says not a great batch) its still smokeable but rather ordinary. I remember ordering a pound of Bob's Flake from Mars in 2010 (or 2008, cant remember) and Mike put a note in that this was a really good batch. He was right. Smelled like cocoa with a hint of latakia. To me, 1792 is best when you smell the Tonka bean topping.
My 2 cents
Mike S.

 

jcsoldit

Lifer
Mar 27, 2010
1,138
245
Wisconsin
I agree with Mike, although he is far more knowledgeable than I am on the topic. I have smoked some Bob’s Flake that did somewhat resemble your pictures without issue.

 

beezer

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 12, 2013
618
743
Coincidentally, last night I dipped into my jar of Samuel Gawith's St. James Flake that had been resting the past year or so in the back of my cellar and I ran into the same situation where I wasn't sure whether the flake had bloom or was getting moldy on me. I stared at it under various lights, rubbed the spots in question, smelled it a half dozen times...then figured hell with it. I packed my pipe after letting it dry out for a couple hours and it ended up being one of the best smokes I've had in quite some time.
Go for it!

 

torque

Can't Leave
May 21, 2013
444
2
Not to be persnickety, but I believe Plume is the term you guys are looking for. That is when the natural sugars in tobacco begin to crystalize on the surface. Bloom is a term more often associated with molds and bacteria. Though bloom may be the correct term. Only way to truely tell is to get the flake under a high magnification. This is something most folks simply aren't equiped to do, at least not at home.
Under magnification, Plume will have an unmistakable crystaline structure. Molds (at least the more common varieties found in most homes) will have a shape reminiscent of a mushroom.
That said, I have a bunch of SJF myself ranging between one and two years old that exibits this exact same characterist and, as beezer pointed out, it's just awesome stuff. I think having their flakes plume up, even after just a couple of years, is pretty common for SG products. Another reason I find them to be a top of the line blender.

 

beezer

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 12, 2013
618
743
Ha. Right plume not bloom! Too funny.
Yeah, I loved the SJF. Might just fire up another bowl of it now.

 

mranglophile

Can't Leave
May 11, 2015
390
4
United States
Looks great, just sugar on it.....looks like lots of the flakes I get from SG. I have some 1792 just like it and the SG chocolate flake has it often as well with little aging, I am assuming it's due to the extra sugary topping/casing. Enjoy!

 

saltedplug

Lifer
Aug 20, 2013
5,194
5,101
In the cigar world white stuff on them is called bloom or spume. It is some sort of signal from the changes wrought by aging. As long as under a magnifying glass is doesn't look furry, it's not mold. It is common for flakes of a certain age to show up white. It's harmless and may also indicate age.

 
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