Yea we do don’t we, At least until we are pushed into accepting a pop’lar vote.
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Yea we do don’t we, At least until we are pushed into accepting a pop’lar vote.
Not a challenge to your well written post. I see your point that it’s unlikely possession will become illegal. But as an addendum, I will point out that where I live most forms of tobacco use are already illegal in all public venues and even many private ones. As perhaps it should be.
If I choose to smoke that is one thing, but many people may not wish to inhale my second hand smoke and I can’t blame them.
Any idea as to where we'd find a sufficient number of pro-tobacco, single issue voters? Cities? Suburbs? Rural areas?
Where do you draw the line? What about air pollution, from cars, from factories, etc.?
Then the answer is for birds of a feather to fly together, isn't it? I already decline to attend venues or visit friend's houses where I won't be allowed to smoke my pipe. I make a very few exceptions, but that's now my rule. If you (general term, not you you, Peregrinus) think you don't have to inhale my tobacco smoke, I don't have to inhale your ideological or prejudiced puffs either.
Tobacco! We're discussing tobacco legislation, not air pollution. Focus "ron123", focus. But, per your argument, air pollution is detested by most everyone and heavily legislated against. Very similar to smoking. Cafe standards for autos address exhaust pollution. Factories are more regulated than tobaccos and the fines are more than you or I would want to pay should pipes be regulated the same.
Well, they are already kinda drawing that line too with the carbon tax and CO2 being declared a "pollutant". Yeah, they actually did the latter.
Boy, you sure are punishing them! More power to you "olkofri"!
Heh, it also gives me the perfect excuse to excuse myself from being bored to death. ?
It seems likely an attempt will be made by some congressmen to add an exception for premium cigars. At least they have a sliver of hope. But I haven't heard any mention about doing the same for pipe tobacco. Given how eggheaded our representatives are I can totally forsee a situation where cigars get an exception but pipe tobacco gets lumped in whith e-vapes and the rest. Do we even have a lobby at all? Is piping such a small market that our cries are a fart in the wind?
No and yes. Also, if you hang here long enough you will see that we cannot come to a consensus about any subject, not even whether or not a hamburger is a sandwich. What would be the logic for our lobbying?
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Good point. I see what you’re saying, but it is about personal responsibility, controlling the things you can control and then copping with those things outside of your control.
The logic would be to spare pipe tobacco from the executioner's blade. Lobbying isn't about logic anyway, it is about money and influence. Or said differently, buying influence.
I hear you brother.
I sometimes wonder if I am becoming less tolerant in my advanced years or that “ideological pollution” is more ubiquitous and harder to escape.
Either way, a full pipe and a quiet spot to enjoy it are more appreciated than ever.
I understand your goal but, why? How do you sell your goal. What's the "for" argument? You can't buy influence any more. They simply won't stay purchased, ask the old tobacco farmers and producers. Maybe lease but, no more out right buying.
It's a pretty small market.
I wonder if Big Tobacco has had a hand in this bill, like they had a hand in crafting the FDA deeming rules. Doesn't affect their cigarette business and takes some wind out of the opposition's fury.
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