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krizzose

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
3,104
18,037
Michigan
They’re on to me. This is odd, because I’ve been buying from SP and P&C for years with no issues. I’m not sure why the authorities would pick up on Top Hat. Maybe they sell a large volume of RYO and thus are on the radar
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cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
20,249
57,280
66
Sarasota Florida
I would ask Tophat why they are reporting to the Michigan tax man. I would also ask who else they are reporting to and then warn the internet pipe community. The last thing anyone wants is to be put on a list.

 

ashdigger

Lifer
Jul 30, 2016
11,379
70,058
60
Vegas Baby!!!
I would ask Tophat why they are reporting to the Michigan tax man. I would also ask who else they are reporting to and then warn the internet pipe community. The last thing anyone wants is to be put on a list
If you buy ANYTHING online.....they know who you are.
At this point, it doesn't really matter. It is what it is.

 

kanaia

Part of the Furniture Now
Feb 3, 2013
658
543
Good for the B&M's. Just wait until they just stop internet tobacco sales altogether. Most of you have maybe 2-4 years to go until the gravy train ends.

 

dcon

Lifer
Mar 16, 2019
2,636
21,489
Jacksonville, FL
Every time this issue presents itself, someone states how these prohibitions are going to be good for B&Ms. I believe this is not quite true. First, many of us no longer have B&Ms available to us. For those that are buying from out of state B&Ms you will suffer under the same restrictions and those business that rely on this as part of their business stream will suffer accordingly.

 

pipestud

Lifer
Dec 6, 2012
2,010
1,749
Robinson, TX.
Good for the B&M's. Just wait until they just stop internet tobacco sales altogether. Most of you have maybe 2-4 years to go until the gravy train ends.-kanaia
Well, let's hope not. That "gravy train," (please, tell me where I can hop aboard that one?), is what helps all of the businesses here (who use the Internet for a portion or all of their sales), pay for their advertising here on pipesmagazine.com. I'd sure hate to lose my job and this great forum. And no sir, it would not be good for the B&M's either for what I thought would be obvious reasons. In case you have not heard, kania, the tobacco Nazi's are after all of us.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
9,604
14,671
That "gravy train," (please, tell me where I can hop aboard that one?)
I believe the common perception of "gravy train" has been successfully manipulated by the social engineers to now mean anyone who is not either in massive debt or in abject poverty.

 

hawky454

Lifer
Feb 11, 2016
5,338
10,220
Austin, TX
Wow! Just seeing that made me sick to my stomach. :cry:
And how is it that this falls on you? You’re just a paying customer, it’s not your responsibility to make sure they properly charged you for taxes, is that not up to the vendors?

 
Oct 7, 2016
2,451
5,195
As has been previously discussed here, by me and others, there is an interstate compact that some, but not all states belong to. These seem to be clustered in the Midwest. I do not know all the states that are members.
Here is what happened. Top Hat is required by the state of Missouri to report out of state sales (not subject to sales tax in Missouri) to the State of Missouri. Missouri then shares that information with other states that are members of the compact. Michigan is one. I know that Illinois and Wisconsin are and I am certain that there are others.
This is the same buzz saw Iwan Ries has run into. It may be a distinction without a difference to those in the position of the OP, but Top Hat did not report him to the state of Michigan. Missouri did, using paperwork that Top Hat has to file to stay in business.
This has been going on for several years now. Nothing new.

 

xingpao

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 11, 2019
119
89
How would you know if it has a tax stamp or not when you order it? You can assume it doesn't, but this us stupid.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,433
Then there are the Model Railroad Product Enforcement Unit, the Crocheting Club Product Enforcement Unit, the Potters Product Enforcement Unit, and the Sewing Machine Product Enforcement Unit, Piano Playing Product ... and so on. You're a law breaker, unless you're sending your money to them.

 

jpmcwjr

Moderator
Staff member
May 12, 2015
24,570
27,078
Carmel Valley, CA
Could not this be: Hitting RYO tobacco sold as pipe tobacco, thus the supplier and vendor are being targeted? Not implying that what was ordered was not up to snuff on taxes.
And that would be a different kettle of fish from sales tax, which ogs writes of above.

 
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