Snowmass Village (CO) Ban On "Flavored Tobacco" Includes Pipe Tobacco

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datascalabash

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Dear 3rdguy:

Data's Calabash here...so far, no action against out-of-state "flavored pipe mixtures", but there have been two OTHER threads here from some time ago involving the Bay State and our briars:

Kevin Godbee's piece from January 2010 entitled "Just Say No to More Smoking Bans in MA"...

...and the later piece from 2015 over a showdown involving overbearing "tobacco control" in the small (roughly 7.300 popuation) north central MA town of Westminster...

..there WERE some 100 protesters outside the famous State House in Boston over the "vaping control" part of the legislation earlier this week, with "We Vape-We Vote" signs, and if that crowd ever got like the people in Westminster were four years ago, a "hornets' nest" COULD be considered a more "peaceful place" than the State House is likely to get concerning that issue...?...

...perhaps "loose 'flavored' tobacco", as with pipe mixtures having a scent of "fruit" or other "flavor", could be exempt for some reason in the Bay State?

If I'm not mistaken, honey and molasses as "flavorings" for pipe mixtures WERE used by some Indigenous Americans for flavoring their blends for untold CENTURIES back into time, and possibly right through to today...and we DO have the Wampanoag and Nipmuc tribal societies in the Bay State that could hammer possibly bad legislation of that type over civil rights if needed, if they were ever confronted by MA state health officials?

Yours Sincerely,
Data's Calabash
 
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artvandelay007

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If I'm not mistaken, honey and molasses as "flavorings" for pipe mixtures WERE used by some Indigenous Americans for flavoring their blends for untold CENTURIES back into time, and possibly right through to today...and we DO have the Wampanoag and Nipmuc tribal societies in the Bay State that could hammer possibly bad legislation of that type over civil rights if needed, if they were ever confronted by MA state health officials?

Yours Sincerely,
Data's Calabash
I don’t think that will help. The only way it’d work is if, after a ban, native Americans bring a law suit because it is interfering with them practicing their religion. If it’s part of their religious ceremonies that may be of some help.
 

olkofri

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I don’t think that will help. The only way it’d work is if, after a ban, native Americans bring a law suit because it is interfering with them practicing their religion. If it’s part of their religious ceremonies that may be of some help.
Indeed, it doesn't work. It only complicates the issue by bringing in identity and grievance politics to the mix. Here the Indians are exempt from bans if they're using tobacco for 'religious' purposes (they can even smoke indoors!) Everyone else who's not part of their ethnicity (or not partaking of their ceremonies) gets the shaft.

Equality actually means special treatment.
 

brian64

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It only complicates the issue by bringing in identity and grievance politics to the mix.

Identity politics is all about divide and conquer.

Keep the plebs fighting among themselves over race, gender, age, religion, "sexual orientation", etc.

It's easy to do because people like it. Most people don't really want individual rights because that means individual responsibility...they want group rights.

They want to be part of a team where it's all packaged for them...don't have to think for themselves.
 
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