C&D's - Billy Budd is a great one and shouldn't be missed. There's also Billy Budd, and oh..Billy Budd too. Did I mention Billy Budd?
Recommend a blend with Cigar Leaf
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Oh, I misinterpreted that. I assumed he meant that the cigars were kind of douche. I was thinking that maybe I was just meeting the wrong sorts of girls. :
:Redpanda,
give a visit to Yiolla at the Habanos shop next to Starbucks on Griva Digheni, give her a hug and my warmest regards, ask for a light, short Cuban (3-4€), disassemble it, give it some drying time (their humidor really keeps 75-80%) and light up... you will be able whether you really like real cigar taste or not, takes 30 min for you and a few €...
smoking pipe tobaccos made with some cigar leaves is an entirely different venture imho.
ps I hope to share a pipe with you over there in Mid-December
give a visit to Yiolla at the Habanos shop next to Starbucks on Griva Digheni, give her a hug and my warmest regards, ask for a light, short Cuban (3-4€), disassemble it, give it some drying time (their humidor really keeps 75-80%) and light up... you will be able whether you really like real cigar taste or not, takes 30 min for you and a few €...
smoking pipe tobaccos made with some cigar leaves is an entirely different venture imho.
ps I hope to share a pipe with you over there in Mid-December
I like G.L. Pease Key Largo and Robusto, Dominican Glory Maduro, H&H Stogie and Purple Cow. I agree that Purple Cow probably has more detectable cigar qualities than other cigar leaf blends. I'm working my way through a tin of PC now and it commands attention when smoking. It also tingles the nostrils like a cigar when retro-haling.
Redpanda
He said to be coming over to Budapest early January so most probably my very long awaited natural bulldog will travel with him...
But let's not hijack the thread: I have tried my cubans in pipe and my 2 cents is that they are better smoked as cigars... this is how they meant to be, no wonder not many you see in Cuba sporting a pipe.....
He said to be coming over to Budapest early January so most probably my very long awaited natural bulldog will travel with him...
But let's not hijack the thread: I have tried my cubans in pipe and my 2 cents is that they are better smoked as cigars... this is how they meant to be, no wonder not many you see in Cuba sporting a pipe.....
Budapest is a little talked about gem of a city. We have been twice on business, Czech glass. I hope the Czech glass comes back into fashion, so that I can visit again. Out of everywhere I have been, it is my favorite place.
Redpanda, my local tobacconist has a bulk english blend with cigar leaf. Not sure of the brand. Haven't tried it yet, myself. I would be happy send you an ounce if you'd like to try, before you spend money on tins you may not like. I'll be stopping by there in the next couple of days or so. PM me.
Tambolaka tobacco is an extremely strong cigar leaf/burley from Indonesia which is usually available at 4noggins.com, but out-of-stock at this time. One of my favorites which I have only smoked straight, though others smoke it mixed or blended.
Cigar leaf is a nice condiment in Billy Budd, which to me has a few flavors including sweet VA and presents as one of the more coarse cut leaf tobacco blends I've seen, but by coarse I don't mean stems...just more intact representations of tobacco leaf than most.
Now, you want a cigar experience in a pipe tobacco? I'd have to say you'll get that with a blend by C&D that doesn't even have cigar leaf in it....Big n' Burley...
Now, you want a cigar experience in a pipe tobacco? I'd have to say you'll get that with a blend by C&D that doesn't even have cigar leaf in it....Big n' Burley...
...just keep in mind that if you love cigars, putting cigar leaf into a blend does not make the pipe taste like a cigar. It is nothing like a cigar at all. However, blends such as Semois, Tambolaka, or even Dark Flake unscented by GH&co, will give you an experience closer to what smoking a cigar is like. But, the way real cigar leaf works with a blend DOES NOT even come close to all of the fragrant flavors that work within a cigar. So, if you smoke a cigar blend expecting anything like a cigar-like experience, you will be disappointed.
This is why I would never suggest a cigar blend to someone switching over to pipes. I always suggest Semois, Tambolaka, or even Dark Flake unscented, because it will be less likely to disappoint a cigar smoker.
This is why I would never suggest a cigar blend to someone switching over to pipes. I always suggest Semois, Tambolaka, or even Dark Flake unscented, because it will be less likely to disappoint a cigar smoker.
Cosmic, are you saying that Semois and Tambolaka have some similar traits? I love Semois but had written off Tambolaka, based on descriptions of people who'd tried it, as pretty coarse and harsh. That's how some people experience Semois. But if Tambolaka is similar to Semois, it might be worth my trying it. I find Semois not strongly reminiscent of a cigar. A cigar is an engineered experience and delivers the taste in a calculated way. A pipe smoker has much more control and partly creates the flavor and burn characteristics. I can enjoy a cigar, but I prefer a pipe.
No, I wouldn't say Semois and Tamboloka are similar in flavor, but if you liked Semois, I would encourage you to try it. They are harsh in the same way, IMO, but the flavors are different.
No, pipes and cigars are different from start to finish, but cigar smokers usually like big flavors from their tobaccos. And, these deliver that is the same way (not same flavor). Cigar leaf gets muted in a pipe. They lose their flavor and potency. I like them in blends, but for the way they add creaminess to the blends, not for any cigar flavor I might anticipate.
I would also add R. McConnell's Pure Caribe to the list. It is a cigar leaf, but it's closer to the big flavor cigar smokers might enjoy in a pipe. The biggest drawback is that it is a shag cut, so pack it tight as heck and smoke it slow. It's maybe above Semois and Tamboloka in harshness though, probably because of the shag cut.
No, pipes and cigars are different from start to finish, but cigar smokers usually like big flavors from their tobaccos. And, these deliver that is the same way (not same flavor). Cigar leaf gets muted in a pipe. They lose their flavor and potency. I like them in blends, but for the way they add creaminess to the blends, not for any cigar flavor I might anticipate.
I would also add R. McConnell's Pure Caribe to the list. It is a cigar leaf, but it's closer to the big flavor cigar smokers might enjoy in a pipe. The biggest drawback is that it is a shag cut, so pack it tight as heck and smoke it slow. It's maybe above Semois and Tamboloka in harshness though, probably because of the shag cut.
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