IRC Italian-Made Pipe. Savinelli?

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haparnold

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Aug 9, 2018
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I've heard that Iwan Ries' Italian house brand pipes were manufactured by Savinelli. I recently picked up an estate IRC "Turino" pipe with a lucite stem which looks like a dead ringer for a Savinelli Oscar lucite. However, the shape number stamped on the pipe is 129, which doesn't correspond with Savinelli's Lovat shape (703). I also think the Savinelli Lovat is a little longer and leaner than this guy. Does this indicate the pipe was made by someone other than Savinelli, or is this Iwan Ries' internal shaping categorization?
A quick look at Iwan Ries' website shows a shape chart, but it doesn't include numbers. Any thoughts?


 

craiginthecorn

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May 8, 2017
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Savinelli made many IRC pipes over the years. It seems the most likely candidate to me. This Porto Cervo 129 may be similar, but with a taper stem and a different adornment. Impossible to tell, though, from the photos provided.
I'm sure it's a fine pipe. Enjoy it!

 

haparnold

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Thanks, Craig. I saw that one too. The pipe I have is just barely a Lovat, by my reckoning. Could have easily been a slightly long-shanked billiard fitted with a short saddle stem to give an overall Lovat-esque look.
I've recently gotten interested in house-brand pipes. If you can pin down the manufacturer, they usually offer a pretty good value, and are all but guaranteed to be dependable, no-nonsense smokers.

 

mso489

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I've heard about Iwan Ries house pipes by Savinelli, and I have one stamped Italy, bought from their house pipe page, but it is not even stamped Iwan Ries, much less any clues about Savinelli, and having been a longtime Sav owner, I don't see a distinct resemblance. For a long time, IR house pipes were made by Benton. Then there was a long indeterminate period when they had pipes from Italy of indeterminate origin, and and the last I knew, they have French pipes by Genod, which look good. But from my experience, the Savinelli connection looks sketchy.