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rhoadsie

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Dec 24, 2013
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Forget the presidency, I'd acquire J.F. Germain & Sons so I had unlimited Penzance and Stonehaven. I'd smoke it, roll in it, supply it to this forum. Okay, just kidding (maybe).
But seriously, I would build a cellar of Peck-like proportions. I would have all the blends I currently love plus a sampling (or more) of all those on the list to try. Aged tobacco like Original Balkan Sobranie for $325 a tin?, BAM done. Hard to acquire tobacco would become not so hard to acquire.
On the other hand, my pipe collection would remain relatively unchanged. I'd stick with my tried and true pipes.
What say you?

 

redpanda

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Sep 11, 2015
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I'd still be sippin' my Orlik GS, but on my veranda in my nice house on the French Riviera or something. :lol:

 

warren

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Sep 13, 2013
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Purchasing something is certainly a way of acquiring. So is stealing, growing, bartering, and borrowing. I miss your distinction aggravated.
If I were Trump I suppose I'd behave as Trump does. Now, if I had his money well, that's something different. I would seriously go all in on a cure for cancers. Frivolously? I'd buy a sufficient number of senators so that I could run the country without having to be president. Being president is over rated. Of course the problem is finding senators that once bought, they stay bought!

 

elbert

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I'm with redpanda--but by "nice house" I mean a quaint and well built little cottage on a low hill somewhere, surrounded by pasture, field, stream, and woodlot, miles from any neighbor.

 

hakchuma

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Jan 13, 2014
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If I were trump, everything I would do would be for the benifit of my family or my wallet, which would mean I would not own any pipes or smoke tobacco. :P.

 

redpanda

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Sep 11, 2015
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Misterlowercase: You know what? Screw it. I have just decided I am going to sell enough of my pipes to raise the money for an Eltang poker. And one with a bamboo stem at that. This is it. I've been thinking of it for months now, and I've had enough. It's decided. Thank you.
and Elbert: That will also do. But let us add some water,like a lake or a nearby river. :lol:

 

rhoadsie

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Dec 24, 2013
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Simplified...If money were no object, which would rule: 1) TAD, 2) PAD, 3) Both, or 4) Go fly a kite, let's see where this thread goes!
@ woodsroad...what definition of superannuated are you referring to? Out-of-date, old-fashioned, obsolete or other?

 

mso489

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Feb 21, 2013
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With way too many pipes and tobacco sufficient for at least several years out for my moderate habit, I'm not sure that abundant riches would go to a more expensive pipe smoking life. In fact, there would be an ironic pleasure as I boarded my yacht, or sat on the board of some educational or medical institution that I had endowed, to step on deck or outdoors and light up my good old Yello-Bole or MM cob freehand. Sometimes you just know a good thing when you see it.

 

cortezattic

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...I wouldn't be spending my time online with you guys. I'd be busy with Melania.

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frozenchurchwarden

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Part of what makes these sorts of hobbies appealing is the idea that you, yes little old you, can have the best in the world.

Millions of dollars can't buy you a better pipe, or better tobacco, and it certainly can't buy any real friends to share it with. It's a classic irony, the things we want don't always make us happy.

 

brian64

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If I were born on third base, perhaps I too would be under the delusion I had hit a triple.

 

elbert

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I'm still waiting for someone to start harvesting digested tobacco leaves from the feces of the Asian Palm Civet, so that I can finally spend the money that would be required to buy the kind of quality blend that I so richly deserve.

 

frozenchurchwarden

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While we're on the topic of ways to make things more expensive.
http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/burnt-rims-and-wanton-violence

Cosmic:

Me? I'm not filthy rich, but the one thing that I splurge on are my pipes. I like to keep boxes of Dunhills in my Yugo, and as I finish a bowl while driving to my burger flippin' job, I just toss them out the window, because the best smoke you'll ever get is that first one in each pipe. Reuse a pipe?
 

aggravatedfarmer

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Warren: I was simply stating that the use of money allows you to aquire other things. If I had more money than that $500 pipe would not look so expensive. However it is out of price range for me and I'm more happy with a couple petersons and a few Ehrlichs. It has always been that more money allows you to aquire more things. You can't steal land (unless if you have a lot of money or an entity such as our fed, state, or local government.). Theft is a short term solution (that is rightfully unlawful) to a long term problem. The bartering system is good on a small scale level in our society. Trade a tin of this for a tin of that. It's hard to do land, or houses, cars, etcetera. Those items become a persona after aquirement. You can't grow law. You can clear trees for land that can be used for agriculture, but no land is new anymore. A friendly tip, if you have a lot of money, buy land that can be farmed. Lease it out to a local farmer, don't get greedy and develop it. Let your children inherit it. You can grow crops, but have to pay for someone eventually to process it unless you are small enough and only doing it for yourself. And finally leasing. If you have as much money as trump you wouldn't ever borrow money. People of his caliber are above the banks and outright buy. Leasing (in my opinion) is a bad idea in many cases. In fact I even think it has diluted our society because people aren't buying their own property and become life long leasers and waste money on "paying rent" than making a house payment. You lose all equity when leasing. Leasing equipment and ag ground are feasible options, but you still don't own it and have no say.

 

warren

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No new land? Don't tell the Chinese that. They're are busy creating a couple of new islands. Nature is always creating new land even as it destroys land through erosion it's building deltas of rich arable soil. The earth is ever evolving, volcanoes push up out of the oceans frequently
If you are addressing only arable land, reclamation projects around the world are creating more all the time. More and more people are needing to be fed. More and more countries are starting to export food stuffs with better transportation and growing methods. American farmers can no longer rely on protective tariffs for success. The American will not support such any longer. They are too conscious of their wallets and look for value, not "home grown" at higher costs.
Trump uses banks all the time for financing projects. The riskier the project the less likely it will be that he will use only his own moneys. He gets partners. It's much healthier for his bottom line to minimize his exposure while maximizing his profits. And, I am sure he keeps his personal moneys very separate from his corporate moneys. Getting rich requires a lot of thought, work and foresight. Or, being lucky at lotto. Staying rich requires even more hard work and thought.
Leasing can make a lot of sense, especially when cost of ownership does not balance with maintenance costs or depreciation. Some equipment is too costly to keep up, especially when that equipment is used sparingly and sits most of the time, depreciating, rusting, and possibly becoming outmoded as new, more efficient models become available.
It's not good to become too "hidebound" when looking a different business models. Leasing can be a money saver. Renting the same. Co-ops may be viable in certain circumstances. It pays to look at all viable options when preparing to spend considerable amounts of money. One should never reject an option without a thorough examination of benefits vs risks.
No-one really owns their own home. I have no mortgage, purchased my house with cash. Yet, if I can't make a property tax payment the government will come, at the point of a gun, and evict me, sell the property after a time, keep what I owe with interest and give me the remainder. One only "owns" a house at the sufferance of the government.
One of the best pieces of financial advise I ever received was: "Never purchase your primary residence as an 'investment.' It should be thought of as your home, a roof over your head, protection for your family. The market may go south but, you will always have your home as long as you can pay the taxes."
It is no longer the simple agrarian world Thomas Jefferson so admired and desired. It's a big, complicated sphere which requires knowledge, agility and forethought to survive. We can wish for a simpler time but, wishing is simply a waste a of time. One must learn to function in an ever widening and sophisticated world or be left behind, dreaming of simpler times. Simpler times which required long, hard hours of physical labor to survive and shorter life spans were the order of the day.
I'm getting long here. But, aggrivatedfarmer, you have my sympathy and empathy. From your posts I have an impression, correct I hope, of how you are endeavoring to live and survive. It's a tough life where any little misstep can be fatal to your dream. And I sincerely wish you success!