Barlings 1831
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1831 is the shape number. It (the "1") designates it was made for the British Market. I can't see but it might have a shop's name on in. I assume it can be dated to a shorter time but I believe the 1930s to the early 1960s is the date range. It looks like a very nice pipe!
Mike S.
Mike S.
As condor said, Sable is the resident Barling expert and I'm sure he'll have a better idea than me, but I can say that I'm pretty sure vulcanite was not commonly used (if used at all) in pipe stems in the earlier part of the 1800's, and that appears to be a vulcanite stem, so I anticipate the pipe would be much more recent than the 1830's. It could still be a very old piece however.
Thank you for the replies chaps. The fading marks as best as I can make out read, "Barlings make 1831", and the other "Benton **luter".
I shall hope the other forum member(s) who have been mentioned will see this thread and have something further to add. It would be great to have more precise information.
I shall hope the other forum member(s) who have been mentioned will see this thread and have something further to add. It would be great to have more precise information.
So in 1831, only a few brave souls in France were experimenting with briar for pipes, and vulcanite did not yet exist. Briar didn't go into widespread use until the 1850's
1831 is the model number, which, as was stated above, indicates the pipe was intended to be sold in the British market. There appears t be a tobacconist's name stamped into the shank, though it's hard to make out. Based on the general shape of the Barling's Make logo stamp I'd guess late '30's thru '40's for the period of manufacture. EL is Extra Large, which makes it a mid sized chamber.
Please post some pix after you've cleaned and polished it up.
1831 is the model number, which, as was stated above, indicates the pipe was intended to be sold in the British market. There appears t be a tobacconist's name stamped into the shank, though it's hard to make out. Based on the general shape of the Barling's Make logo stamp I'd guess late '30's thru '40's for the period of manufacture. EL is Extra Large, which makes it a mid sized chamber.
Please post some pix after you've cleaned and polished it up.
Thank you for that. It is strange the 'extra large' would make it mid sized. Was it extra large during the time it was produced, but considered mid sized by todays standards?
It was not my intention to polish it. It is currently listed for sale on ebay in a good used condition. My original valuation is perhaps too high at £65 ($82), due to my mistake of considering it's manufacture date being 19th century. What would you consider it's value to be?
At a minimum I'd scrub off the lava from the rim, scrub the stem, and coat the whole thing lightly with mineral oil, buff. Then shoot it again, on a non-white background for better exposure.
Unfortunately, someone buffed the hell out of the shank with the stem off, rounding the corners.
Unfortunately, someone buffed the hell out of the shank with the stem off, rounding the corners.
Decades ago, most pipes tended to be on the smaller side, in part because tobacco was a relatively expensive luxury, more so than today. Until the late 1930's Barling made pipes in three sizes, small, medium, and large. Then they expanded the range of sizes to include Extra Extra large and Extra Extra Extra large. So there were two sizes larger than Extra Large.
As to value, it's really hared to say. You will not make the same kind of money that you would were the pipe cleaned up. Prices on Britwood have fallen in the past few years. Also, results depend on the quality of your presentation. Your evaluation might be right on target. A few years ago it would have been way low.
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