New York City Bans ALL Flavored Tobacco | The #1 Source for Pipes and Pipe Tobacco Information

If you live in the largest city in America, and enjoy ANY type of flavored tobacco, it’s time to start stocking up before you are forced to buy online. If you’re a retailer selling tobacco in New York, we feel sorry for you.

If you’re an adult that has been enjoying the freedom of taking pleasure in tobacco products in the largest city in America, in what is supposed to be the freest country in the world, another one of your freedoms just got taken away.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg signed a bill into law on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 prohibiting the sale of flavored tobacco products within New York City limits. The signing of bill 433-A, which was proposed on October 13 and put on Bloomberg’s desk two weeks ago, will render the sale of ALL flavored tobacco products; including flavored cigars and flavored pipe tobacco products illegal in New York City in 120 days (February 28, 2010).

This measure is more strict than the recent FDA ban, which banned flavored cigarettes (including cloves, but not menthol), as it extends to flavored cigars, chewing tobacco and pipe tobacco.

"Introductory number (433-A) would ban the sale of tobacco products with characterizing flavors, except for menthol, mint, or wintergreen, in any location other than a tobacco bar," said Bloomberg in the official press release. "This bill improves upon the recent federal ban on flavored cigarettes and makes New York City the first city to protect children from all flavored products on the market."

It seems no one told the mayor that it is already illegal for any tobacco products, whether they are flavored or not, to be sold to or bought by children.

 



"I feel like I’m in a bad episode of The Twilight Zone" bemoaned Kevin Godbee, editor of PipesMagazine.com. "We’re going to Manhattan to Davidoff of Geneva in two weeks to film a video, and I just can’t imagine that in one of the greatest cities in the world, one of my favorite cities, that something as friendly and soothing as an aromatic pipe tobacco will be illegal. Can’t we get an exemption similar to "medical marijuana"? I never thought I would see the day that marijuana starts becoming more legal, while aromatic pipe tobacco becomes illegal. This is like a bad dream that I can’t wake up from. And by the way, why are all flavors evil except for menthol, mint, or wintergreen? I loved mint candies when I was a kid. Did something change? Are kids repelled by mint today? Or is it that the largest sales of flavored tobacco products are menthol cigarettes and they made some kind of inside deal?"

Speaking of "inside deals", make sure you don’t miss this significant part of the new law:

[17-703] 17-715 Sale of flavored tobacco products prohibited.
It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or offer for sale any flavored tobacco product except in a tobacco bar. (Emphasis added)

i. "Tobacco bar" has the meaning as such term is defined in subdivision jj of section 17-502 of this code.

While referencing "this code", the definition of a “tobacco bar” is not contained in the new document. You can download the pdf here:
NY-City-Flavorings-Ban-10.2009.pdf.

You will not find the definition of a tobacco bar in that document.

However, we did some research and found that the definition of a tobacco bar is vague, ambiguous and telling of potential favoritism.

jj. "Tobacco bar" is a bar that, in the calendar year ending December 31, 2001, generated ten percent or more of its total annual gross income from the on-site sale of tobacco products and the rental of on-site humidors, not including any sales from vending machines, and is registered with the department of health and mental hygiene in accordance with the rules of such agency. Such registration shall remain in effect for one year and shall be renewable only if: (i) in the preceding calendar year, the previously registered tobacco bar generated ten percent or more of its total annual gross income from the on-site sale of tobacco products and the rental of on-site humidors; and (ii) the tobacco bar has not expanded its size or changed its location from its size or location as of December 31, 2001.

 

Source: http://www.tobacco.org/resources/documents/021211nycbill.html

Apparently, any tobacco bars in existence after 2001 are out. If you are "grand-fathered" in, you can never move either.

It is not clear if an establishment must have personal humidors for rent to qualify, but it seems so. ""Tobacco bar" is a bar that, in the calendar year ending December 31, 2001, generated ten percent or more of its total annual gross income from the on-site sale of tobacco products and the rental of on-site humidors". A reasonable person would say that it can be either or, but as usual these laws are written so they can be interpreted different ways.

We hope the CRA and the IPCPR will be organizing rallies, protests and lobbying to stop this reckless, mindless theft of our freedoms.

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9 Responses to “New York City Bans ALL Flavored Tobacco”

  1. sinistertopiary said:

  2. peter said:

  3. Bob said:

    Sad times my friends….sad times.

    I keep saying that we need to start speaking up and standing up for our, and everyone else’s, rights. This is going to snowball out of control.

  4. Stan said:

    I think this will affect us all around the USA. It is sad to say but we may have to have an uprising to get our rights back. The snow ball has gotten too big & needs to me stopped!!

  5. lordofstuff12 said:

    I never understood how a place as diverse as New York City, keeps electing these fascists, first Giuliani then Bloomberg, who might as well wear a purple cape and call himself King of Manhattan for all that it matters.

    / sorry, I’m disgruntled about the condition of my home state.

  6. Ed said:

    Sadly, in America, where the rights of the smallest minority–the individual–are supposed to be guaranteed and protected by the Constitution, this vital document is being destroyed city by city, paragraph by paragraph, by vile nanny-staters like Bloomberg and his henchmen. We now live in a nation where the biggest gang sets the rules and abrogates the freedoms of the minority, all in the name of “the children.” Mayor-For-Life Bloomberg, who successfully vanquished term limits, seems intent on turning New York City into Nanny State London. They say there’s little difference these days between Democrats and Republicans. Well, take a look at the city council membership. One party dominates it. Those people are elected officials. Perhaps New York is getting what it deserves. Except the city council won’t stop at tobacco.

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  9. pstlpkr said:

    I’m so outraged… anything I post would not be civil.
    Progressives… unbelievable.





 

 


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